Karvir: Not me starting the game when everyone is quitting

ryanc9876: 8 man raids feel more like "well, I'll never do those since I don't know 7 other people" compared to 4 mans where I know at least one other person so we make up half of a raid. But whatever, I guess I'm not the target anymore.

Kytes93: Aion 2 really puts a nail in the coffin. Players were giving feedback on how to improve the game for 4 years and it didn't changed anything. The entire Tier 3 raids, guardian raids, abyssal dungeons are DEAD! So much effort just vanished

Balmung_: Let’s be real.. there’s nothing they can do to rebound the direction the population decreases

yeagerist5361: Guide how to bring people in the game:

1) completely revamp whole story and lvling experience to be around 10 hours of meaningful story with cutscenes and gameplay

2) introduce learning/solo/matchmaking raids into early characters progression with completey rewamped progression system which won't involve any rng and will be obtained buy completing that raids

3) rewamp all horizontal grind to be obtainable without time gates or huge rng aspects, also remove unused content completely and make it shorter.

4)add the class trial content with the ability to switch over to liked class 1per account (so people can try multiple classes in said trial and decide what they want later in the game with ability to fully swap into it)

5) remove all subscriptions, make qol actually worth it and you can even introduce 1sub later on if it has a meaning NOT MORE THEN 1 SUB period.

6) after doing all that market the game again

There is much much more that's needs to be done for mid game and end game players, but this 5 for starters can help bring some players into the game

taleofsonata1: The game was one of the greatest mmo, had better raids than ff14/wow was way more action and way more dynamic/stressful. But it was fun. In the end Greed got to the head of the DEV and Bad target audience ( the Koreans) killed it.

sdj33: the games great combat is not enough to justify the rest of the shitty experience, everyone i know quit, i quit, we were all 1780 mains 1760 alts. sell your gems before they are worthless

jude0117: As someone who played lost ark religiously from launch until february 2025, i still kinda follow whats going in lost ark. I had fun with the game until brel v2 release where my static since the beginning couldnt really clear together, so some had left and joined others/randoms. Because of this, the other half of our static kind of took a break and eventually quit (including me). However I had a lot of instances where i wanna play again. But remembering the worst parts of the game kinda outweighed the good parts. I know it is weird but it is like that in my experience. I logged in to the game in june 2026. I tried the new solo raids but it's just not the same experience. I cant join random lobbies now because i am too far behind and im just gonna get kicked. Theres also another system called ark grid which would most likely take weeks/months of my life to max out. I logged out after 30mins. I had fun with the game the first 4 years but no intention of coming back anymore. Good luck to the people who wants to try the game.

Imbasnap: brel killing the game consecutively. not surprised.

harukoiiwajima: This game dies in October. :)

I'll come back check on this haha or at least it'll lose half the player base is gonna stop 3000

BogzySama: Last time i logged in i had to spend 900k to get from 1700 to 1710 (felt horrible that was most of my gold), then i couldnt even do the latest solo raid (the matchmake one) because nobody was queueing. At that point i felt like i probably wont even play casually anymore.

rui1474: I think December loa on will be the make or break for the game, not just for the west but also KR, that said I dont see myself dropping this game, its still a game I'm in love with and still have a lot of friends to play with which makes everything 2 times as fun.

toml1882: What about allowing to spam 6x gold earning character amount of raids to how many characters you want to play? Instead of needing a 6x character roster, you could do 3 x 6 raids on 1 character, 2, 3 or 6? This would remove the NEED to have 6 characters for people that just want a single main and if you want to have 6x gold earners you can do that also.

titogeesoon: NGL I clicked this video, thinking it was Hugh Jackman.

synergic2422: The game is to p2w heavy. Im playing from day one and never stoped. I just got some ark passes and then never spend money but you will never reach full lvl 10 gems or other things to reach the CP needed for upcomming nightmare mode. With the change that the amount of tradeable mats are lower they forced ppl more and more to pay mats in the shop. And with the shrinking playerbase there are only p2w andys and newbies left. The newbies will quit again because at some point they will notice that you will never catch up without real money and dondt find ppl to play with because the rest is so far ahead. And there are many other problems you already mentiond. Only thing i dondt agree on is the 4 man raid thing. I think raids should always be 4 and 8 man so ppl can choose what they like more. For me its more fun with smaller raids and play with the rest of my friends instead of beeing denied because some of us dondt have week one clear title or have 6-7k CP.

czekskii: There is no onboarding point for western players. EVERY other MMO in the west has points and time where everyone is brought to the same power level. I get there are events that "juice" new players from an existing player' perspective, but a new player seeing a new raid and finding out they are 3 months of grinding away from doing it is a huge turn off. Churn is inevitable without bringing in fresh meat and SG just seems content with having a small niche game for their whale audience.

Xioneer5: The issue is that these extreme raids are shit to some classes to clear on those classes you either need to be giga whale or sweat and prog for decade with non existent community. And the game is so shit towards alts so to even consider playing other class to bypass dmg issues its impossible.

joreldecker1949: lmao as if pay 2 win matters, they need to axe the 24 systems as someone that has taken a long break coming back and seeing all these fuckass systems made me uninstall. we need a real catch up i could care less if someone pays 2 win in a PVE game what a joke. no the game will never attract classic wow or final fantasy players, if this game survives aion 2 release ill check it out when smilegates takes over AND start making changes to get new players and old back into the game

nugget9115: This game will see a even bigger drop when Aion 2 hits.

petetam567: Well what is the expectation here ? The game is even struggling in KR currently . After the summer LOA ON hype with more casual focus and a new raid Belgardin, Lost Ark is dipping again in KR PC Bang ranking , it has been pretty much loosing over half people it gained 2 months ago. Game structure is rotten to the core with too grindy p2w and not very casual friendly raid to new comer. Good luck to retain a lot of players with shitty progression stuff like Arkgrid.

Even the Serca matching mode is design without much thought, the solo Serca is very easy, but the group matching with unlimited revive is just bad design overall as the mech is quite different and harder than solo. The casual player when trying group matching can clear due to unlimited revive but learn nothing. They will die a lot and just bypass mech and do not have a chance to prog and practice properly. This leads to annoying situation in KR that gold farmer gatekeep genuine new player that trying to learn the raid in matching mode by vote kick them . They will have to redesign the mode again to make sure it is convenient for people to prog and clear together , at least make solo and group have identical mech.

jerryy2413: when I was bored the most Johns video popped up

Its_Dnnny: i came back for a month, played with the new systems, did the newer raids and just got hit by the "im literally never catching up because of "x"", honing mats drop so little nowadays that it is literally impossible to get anything done

lazwolv: Do you think the game would have died faster if they weren’t so stubborn and gave people what they want? Examples: roster wide gems, ability to run more raids on main character, increase number of gold earners (most people have multiple accounts/rosters), global releases?

Edit: what about how underwhelming farming/playing feels in general because of their greedy ass RNG rates. I’m a 16k hour, day 1, three rosters player. Right now my main has a 21 weapon, if I do just that character’s content for a week, all I achieve is <10 failed weapon taps. I haven’t counted but I know it’s not that many. They removed funneling but didn’t add an alternative.

BogzySama: If theres more busses than legit clears that signals a problem with the design of the game, the raids are way too hard. Hiding the busses wont fix the issue just like it didnt in the west, it will only drive away the players who only relied on busses.

Chillmaljetz: I play both loa und bdo and i think bdo has better systems but loa is the better game somehow idk like character design, boss fights.

nicolaslourembam3611: i am tired of pugging Boss

Giorgiszz: I personally quit during Kazeros release after 3k hours. Ark grid and no book changes was a slap in the face. The game is a gait 0 sim and then a raid game

Aug 25 2026

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