rex25k: The 7 million karma is INSANE!!! The rings are more reasonable and each have 3 infusion slots. Stella will be the least sought after legendary if they don't fix it.

Toni_Rizzo: The 7 mill karma and 50k RN is probably gonna keep me from bothering with the stella radens. It makes way more sense for me to just finish Aurora.

The higher cost of the new leggies may be because they have less achievement chain requirements compared to older trinkets. Kinda like the difference between Orrax and Ad Infinitum. Ad infin I had to do a lot more specific achievements in the unlock process, but I probably made gold crafting that, just from how many fractals I was running. Where as with Orrax, i finished all the cheevos real quick. Then it was mostly stockpiling for the mat sink components.

All that said, I agree they went a bit over board with the pricing on these.

luca7675: The 7mio Karma is not a problem for ppl that raid a lot. But the 50k research notes is absurd. Thats 500-600 gold alone.

EMG660: your not Wrong lol even for Vet players it's outrageous. but it's safe to say these items are for a target audience so they can stay busy in the game.

JoshuaStamford: Anet really broke the mold they were implementing with cheaper and easier to obtain legendries, the rings, back and armor are cheaper and easier to make. Making it a lower ceiling for new/casual players to obtain, however, Stella is arguably double the cost of Aurora or Vision. Strife on the other hand keeps in line with the cheaper and easier to obtain but forces players to play content they may not enjoy. I personally plan to make 2x Strife because I enjoy WvW and at 45 clovers ea. plus mats I'll get for playing WvW it's not going to have the ice-skating uphill feeling that discourages me from trying.

dreadpiratexx: 1000000000% agreed. I get it from the point of view of a designer but as a player they keep throwing new and more legendaries at us. Every time you want to work on a new one then 3 new ones come out that are insane. It should be costing less to make them with the flood.

jaspersureshot: I'm a vet, and these pain points are rather minor. If they seem like a problematic challenge that just means you don't know enough about the game. The karma gate isn't that big of a deal. Go to season 4, upgrade the karmic retribution buff in all the maps and then do the season 4 meta train. Just search for a guild that is farming that and get cozy with them. Very soon you will collect 7mil karma.

Ehab.W.Y: It depends on how long it takes to acquire. If it’s expensive but players can get it without heavy time-gated requirements, then it’s justified compared to the older legendary trinkets.

If I remember correctly, the older ones took me months because of all the daily time-gated things. So in the end, we basically have two options: time vs money.

zhamirdiaz3196: 7 mil karma, I saw that and said. I'm never making this!

Neph_Champion.1379: You need 5 Gifts of Battle for Conflux, I don't see the difference....

Now I will agree with you on Steller Radiance. That's getting into the realm of Silly money.

creestee08: to me as a veteran. i guess with my hoarding tendencies, i already have most of these prereqs items needed. so yeah, its expensive but i can afford it since i already have most of them.

jorgeroman9916: Just to give some perspective, Conflux (WvW legendary ring) also requires 5 Gifts of Battle, and you can get them in like 5 weeks or less playing casually at WvW. But what is really painful is getting 1,850 Skirmish Claim Tickets. By the time I got them, I had already collected like 8 Gifts of Battle. I'm reading that Strife Unending requires 3,000 Tickets

Anyway, you can always go for Aurora and Vision. I like the fact that the game gives you options. And I understand that an accesory should be extremely expensive cause it helps all of your characters.

I agree that 7 million Karma is brutal. But... What will you do with Karma anyway?

Maybe we need to change the perspective. Maybe we need to see these legendaries as rewards for people who like the game, plays it a lot and from a very long time.

RicardoValenzuelaatmosferock: most people won't get it because of how ridiculous it is, that makes me want it more actually

juli9019: Most of wvw players don't have anything to use their currencies, whole guild was able to build at least one Strife on the spot.

saint.gw2: well if you think about it, not many player can make it. so it will become a prestige item. and there are other leggy like aurora and vision if you just want the QoL.

EnzoVinZ: Of course you're wrong, took you long enough to realize that legendary items are not for casuals. I only have one legendary (Bolt) and it took all my resources to make it and that's it for me.

jrovel07: Aurora Legendary trinket from LWS3 needs 700,000 Karma and 100 gold. To require 7 MILLION Karma 200 gold AND 50,000 research notes? Especially from an expansion that gives a couple hundred Karma for events and the Meta? If this is your first expansion, you'll never craft a legendary because of the INSANE cost they put on this and the amount of time it would take. You'll just quit

McPilch: Strife Unending..... I'm Platinum in WvW, and have like 10 Emblems of the Avenger stashed away., lol. Guess I used some for backpiece, ring, and I think 8 pieces of WvW leggy armour.. assuming those emblems were required. Then again, most of those ranks are from camps, lol. I'm awful at any competitive play, day 1 noobs can beat me, and finding not-weak zergs during SEA/OCX evening to get kills with is hard.. every single match my team is nonexistent at that hour.

But, zero issue for me. It's for dedicated WvWers, who will have those emblems filling their bank already, and have heaps of GoBs as well. If I was really serious, I'd find a guild, learn, get semi-competent, and get it.

If you're not dedicated to WvW, it's not an item for you. If you're a veteran, it's a reward for your time. If you're newish, it's a long-term but rewarding goal. If you just want the shiny, but hate WvW, then I don't know what to say. It's like wanting a Ferrari but you refuse to work your way up the corporate ladder to a higher salary.. or you live off welfare.

Stella Radians is similar.. it's a quick reward for the true dedicated veterans, or a very satisfying reward for putting in a lot of dedicated time after its release.. tho 7m karma should be halved at least, lol.

Lord Hizen got BOTH accessories within days. That made me feel very happy, in a way, because while being out of reach for most people (for months or longer), demigods of the game could deservedly flex their insane dedication.

fricak1111: Strife Unending is easy to get if u are wvwvw player.

GBEWgw2: LOL buddy what how about u just dont get it if u cant handle the karma grind LOL

Alexrex77: You made valid observations about expensiveness of these trinkets. I don't do much of PvE these days, I focus on WvW. The main choke point in Strife unending is in Claim Tickets (for mistwalker infusion), not gifts of battle. I spent a quite few GOBs, and still have nearly 30 tossing around.

recon78: As a middling player I was able to craft two Endless Summers within 4 weeks and that was without having done any of the mirror farms or any currency farms previously. I blew through the VoE story and went back to my old routine. I had little to no sap/stones. I hadn't even done the story achievements to unlock purchases nor even map comp. Even then it still took me barely a month. I have no desire to farm 14 million karma for these. The fact that they don't even get an extra infusion slot (not that they're needed for 150 AR anyway) is even less incentive. I have a ton of winterberries/eternal ice so I can craft them if really needed but I already have dozens.

actuallyroger: These both feel like “coming to an end” style leggies.

HEZ63: Even the 1.5 mill Karma for Endless Summer lasted a long time for me. (Not raiding, no guild, just a solo player). 50k RN is a additional problem. But ok, keeps me busy for a long time and with 11 chars it still mabye makes sense.

Have all legendary armors (obsidian), two legendary rings, the amulet and the relic, so ok, not essentially necessary, but why not. On the other hand, for the legendary spear I only needed three days...

More comfortable, if changing builds, you get the visual effect (but my chars anyway "glow", but really essentially necessary not at all.

Leo-z1v: I had pretty much everything required already from past play . But to grind that now I can’t say I would complete

MrBlake6332: 7 million karma is insane, but I try to look at it this way.

Mr. coffee Dad, you should think of a list of all of the items that you think you might want to acquire. Whether those be legendary or expensive skins or bank contracts, etc..

Put every single one of them in a GW2Efficiency Crafting calculator (same tab, multiple items). You can also just do this with Stella another legendary.

Prioritize them. Say you have a long term goal: Stella Radians - you like its effect but it feels impossible to grind for the karma wall, so you put it at the bottom of the list.

Then, just find another item to be your main focus. Eventually, as long as they don’t compete for resources, you’ll have broken the karma barrier and not even realized it. Then you just re-prioritize it and invest everything into Stella instead!

nemesis9378: I have unlimited castora currencies but I cannot even use it for legendries since everything is like 250-500 gold you need around 2500 gold in order to make the main legendries...

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