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Natejameslewis: Wise is great for holding multiple currencies, you can set it up to only convert at a certain exchange rate so if you're getting paid in USD but the rate to GBP is rubbish you can just hold the USD until it improves then automatically convert it.

trymba: 48:20 "Now that's quality roleplay!"

dannyflorida: Yay! I’ve been so waiting for your lore-filled enthusiastic playthrough of this update, which I’ve enjoyed very much. Clearing my schedule to watch all the episodes.

GodDammitLeary: Glad to see you've got a more stable living situation WP! Just a note, I feel like the game audio was a bit quiet compared to your voice. I"m only 1h30mins in tho

Somebody374-bv8cd: There's been a lot of buzz about gw3 that even as someone who isn't very invested in gw2 right now noticed. Teapot also made a video which is honestly just speculation. For me I'll just wait for when actual concrete information is out first before I make any decisions.

itsyourboiikenny: I think Arah might of been an original Lion's Arch founded by the Seer's, Forgotten, Mursaat, and maybe Jotun and Kodan too. Otherwise it feels kinda strange that the Forgotten and Mursaat fought Zhaitan at the "Gates of Arah", to which the Seer's abandoned them, or that the Kodan were called south to Arah. Not to mention the artifacts of the older races inside of Arah, I think the human Gods kinda just took over the ruins they found there, as well as the bloodstone's and magic artifacts the Seer's and Forgotten created.

What I don't understand is why didnt the Seer artifacts like Legavo and the Staff of the mists, work against the Mursaat, Forgotten or Human Gods?

xuzhang9580: Glad you're back!! Hope everything will work well and be fine for you from now on :D

OK so here's the full explanation for the (potential) timeline problem in Waiting Sorrow's ascension (wall of text warning):

> Waiting Sorrow, driven by Koda's Rage, left her tribe during a Dragonrise. This much is clear from Janthir Wild story & the original Kodan blogpost from launch. We don't know if she left during the early stage or the late stage of the Dragonrise though.

> Isgarren was exiled by Sidony during the seer-mursaat war because he ascended Sorrow. We don't know if the exile happened during the early stage or the late stage of the war (again).

So, if the seer-mursaat war happened (even if immediately) after the Dragonrise, then the only way this timeline could work is that Sorrow left her tribe late and Isgarren got exiled early on (or it somehow took Sidony hundreds of years to find out that Isgarren did the ascension, which is even weirder if we are to think that Sorrow got Divitium Nava (the full one)).

The blogpost before Repentance stated that "sometime after the Elder Dragons returned to their slumber, the mursaat and the Seers waged war for thousands of years until the Seers were all but extinct." I do think this is clear enough evidence that the war only started after the Dragonrise, but there're more texts ingame confirming this.

> We can be sure that the seer-mursaat war did NOT start until the Dragonrise happened. In Starlit Weald, we can find a letter Sidony wrote to Azzo, his amanuensis, to tell him that the mursaat would not recieve an invitation to Castora, and it has the following line:

"However, [the mursaat] remain ever demanding, even as these ancient dragons stir fresh anxieties for all. They have yet to contribute, to make good on our investments. [...] I find it rather telling, or at least, distasteful on their part."

So the letter was written as the Dragonrise was starting, but clearly the seer and the mursaat weren't at war. You can tell that Sidony sure didn't like the mursaat though.

> There's also Isgarren's dialogue from SotO:

"[...] just before we were to aid the mursaat in their attack on Zhaitan... Sidony decided against. The mursaat never forgave us, and I empathized with that. [...] But they would hunt us for thousands of years after. A few hundred of them, for all of us."

This dialogue gives a clear explanation as to why the war happened: the mursaat was spiteful about the seer's betrayal during the Dragonrise.

> And there's Mabon's dialogue from Strength of the Unseen, during this monologue, he was wondering what would've happened if the seer did lend their aid during the Zhaitan fight:

"Most likely, we'd be dead. Maybe the mursaat wouldn't have fled, though. The Seers wouldn't have declared war."

There is this weird indication that perhaps it was the seers who first declared war against the mursaat, but we can know that the mursaat fled from Tyria into another dimension (or the Mist, or the shadow realm, whichever one we like to call it) after the failed attempt on Zhaitan.

> We also knew from very old lore that the mursaat refused to store magic in the bloodstone, so they persumably fled before the creation of the bloodstone and did not return until after its completion (there is confirmation of this from Mursaat Tablets in Ember Bay). And since the bloodstone effectively ended the Dragonrise by draining magic from Tyria so the dragons have nothing to feast on, the mursaat most likely did not return until the Dragonrise ended.

So the whole timeline probably goes like this:

The seer and the mursaat were not on very good terms, the Dragonrise happened, the mursaat teamed up with the forgotten to take on Zhaitan, failed because they didn't get help from the seers (and started to resent them), the mursaat then fled from Tyria (effectively abandoning the other races, so the seers resented them too), then the seers created the bloodstone (and perhaps around this time is when Waiting Sorrow left her tribe), the Dragonrise ended, the mursaat returned and started the war with the seers, then Isgarren found Sorrow, ascended her and got exiled.

The only things we have to suspend our disbelief on is the fact that Sorrow only went mad with Koda's Rage near the end of the Dragonrise. Other than that, I see no big problem except for ambiguous writing XD

Also I suggest keeping the Waiting Sorrow ascension thing in mind, since the story of this update revealed even more weird facts if we are to think that she got Divitium Nava.

tirzahbauer: Welcome back WP! We missed you. :)

janikd7948: Hey wp, glad to have u back. Always happy to see ur gw videos pop up in my feed

emilymalkieri: I totally get the re-invention after a house fire bit. Currently preparing for an international move, which you know, is obviously more controlled and less traumatising than a fire, but I'll still be getting rid of most things I own. Just found a company to clear everything out and I'm so looking forward to it

Somebody374-bv8cd: 48:22 10/10 voice acting

emilymalkieri: I'm never sure just how seriously we're supposed to take GW2's patches-in-real-time timeline. Is the story that Vloxx has had Ancorra for half a year now, and both Vloxx and we have just been durdling between patches, or are we supposed to ignore that and pretend we've been trying to catch up with him?

callum4450: been trying to email you something but not sure how to it's an entire essay on the current storylines future. would love to send you it for any critiques or counter arguments

May 21 2026

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