segmanYT: I really dont see a point in looking for excuses to explain poor state of after EoD content and storytelling. There is only one reason and it's called Guild Wars 3. We are now in GW2: Beyond stage of the game, the sunset.
xuzhang9580: Waiting Sorrow's departure time was never specified, but it was between 716AE (the date of that unofficial history book) and 1078AE (Gw1 time). Since Waiting Sorrow didn't know Lyhr (according to dialogue from Dagda) and Lyhr ascended before Rite of the Great Dwarf, she must've been away for at least 250 years, which makes the whole "only adjusted to life without Isgarren's shackling gaze" complete nonsense and another jab at Isgarren from her, which is completely unearned. No idea where she'd been before she joined the Lowland Kodan though.
Nightly_Winter: Watching the Wailing Sorrow reveal, and how everything shifted to be anti-Isgarren afterwards made me realize that ArenaNet is building up to have Isgarren replaced by Wailing Sorrow as the leader for the Wizards Court. Especially later on when characters start shrugging off Isgarren every chance they get, including the commander and already start semi-following Wailing Sorrow command.
I hope Im wrong on this of course, I think that would be really bad direction to take the story assuming we take the wizards with us to the 3rd mini-expac.
xuzhang9580: Oh my, I didn't even think about it, but Decima calling Greer her brother and referring to Ura as their leader/superior is really weird when you know the information from the new patch. I suppose you should keep that in mind when you reach the new patch and judge whether it's well explained or not. Also, not to spoil anything, but there's a really funny line in the new patch about the Heart of the Obscure that I thought is 100% a metaphor to this idea that we just use the heart on everything and it solves them.
mikalemadden1762: WP needs to play Baldur's Gate 3, and be a legion of bees ranger
graven2002: About rushing: there were people complaining about the story less than 2 hours after the patch hit. I don't see how that is possible without rushing.
I agree, it is odd that they care enough to complain, but don't care enough to take their time and grab more details.
nuaide: Really loving the series so far! Excited to hear your opinions on Absolution. I would really like a post-story stream on homesteads/the decoration system, would be very nostalgic - I used to love the guild hall streams around HoT and PoF. Maybe could be a fun way to send off JW? Could maybe also be a fun stream to deep dive into the lore some more :)
Mixchimmer: The pretend incredulity on the Waiting Sorrow reveal is killing me xD xD
aaronh678: Curious, just got to the part where we talking about not world ending expansions etc. Wasn't there quite a few murders in Lion arch, and did we ever figure out who did them / why? We know of some detectives, that could be a nice chill - non world ending, expansion, which brings up the old cast (Rama / Gorrik / Marjory and Kasmeer etc).
Darkz.-: i unironically play a bee build for open world recently, its condi soulbeast with the bee pet, the relic of the beehive (works great with one wolf pack) the bee mini and black/yellow striped bee fashion
unfortunately the sword 3 for ranger has been reworked, it used to be the bee themed hornet sting but now its serpent strike
in my casual era of playing gw2 i really enjoy thematic builds even if they are not the most effective, something about finding matching skills and visuals is very satisfying
xuzhang9580: Shouldn't Waiting Sorrow's magical affinity lies in astral/celestial magic? She was the wizard leading the bastion of the celestial before her departure, and in the note she left Dagda she said "Find comfort in the fact that we're channeling the same stars", there's dialogue in SotO that stated she and Isgarren formed the fractals together for their research, etc. If anything her magical abilities should be about stars and something cosmos related, I mean her tarot card even named her "The Eye of the Cosmos". They decided to turned her into focusing on healing magic and plants, which was what Vass was all about. It's reasonable since she's close to Vass, but I do feel like she lost a bit of intrigue with that decision.
leonminusmensch8745: Hay WP, have you seen Jujutse Kaisen? its till now a 10/10 in the first 2 seasons
Tocavian: In regards to the "I hope SPUD doesn't give that impression" when talking about other games modding communities, I don't think it does, in fact I think in literally the minutes that preceeded you saying that sentence kind of proves it. I feel like as far as youtubers go, you seem incredibly down to earth, and the attitude of SPUD reflects that. The communities around "content creators" tend to reflect them.
Sammybree: Am I the only one who thought Anise was randomly shoved into the story? I get the whole Mesmer collective and Mabon stuff (even that felt clunky) but i always thought Anise being involved outside of the Alliance meeting was kinda weird given the wizards were so secluded, now it’s like let anyone roam around the tower! Also on being shoved in Caithe and Malice, tf is that about? Like did they just have those VA’s available at the time and say screw it, put em in! Caithe says “I’m possibly looking for a way to heal the pale tree” then it’s like the John Travolta meme we’re looking around like huh?
Edit: I would of loved to see them utilize Malice better, maybe have her tease in the first meeting that her scouts hear rumblings of an ancient foe in Janthir and she wants to investigate herself, she has a suspicion it’s a Titan but they never tell us that right away… Then she really becomes a focal point in the story when she sees the Titan (Greer) and wants to kill it to leverage herself on possibly becoming the next Khan-Ur, as far as I know she would be the only Charr alive to kill a Titan. But replace Caithe with Efram too and he says he’s tagging along with Malice.
CryHeroCZ: I am still confused why you have for big dangerous battles cast of high command type characters. Imperators, claws and so on. For all of this would have been better to pick that bear spear master instead of claw no? But i guess they just want to have those important characters memorable and maybe not put so many more characters to highlight.
AwesomeDeBawesome: It's nice that you want to keep an open mind about Isgarren and potential other character flaws, but I wanna strengthen the idea that it's simply poor writing. Isgarren is presented to us as you've described: arrogant, callous in certain situations, and impatient in others. He sees the big picture and always has Tyria's safety in mind, which works so well with his age, wisdom, and arrogance. The flaws work well and make sense and add much-needed spice to the story.
They totally have the space to have him be upset at Waiting Sorrow, and it's also fine that she could have a different perspective of Isgarren than we've seen so far. The issue is that the commander readily takes her side and acknowledges the newly invented flaws: petty, emotional. The commander has never seen anything like that from Isgarren, which is where the story breaks.
The writing in that journal about opening a portal to the Realm of Torment as an overreaction is insane to me as well. The guy who always thinks of Tyria above everything else just opens a portal to another realm because he's emotional? Are there no risks involved with that at all? How Dagda talks about threatening to open a portal so easily also bothers me. We shouldn't so casually be hinting about travel to other dimensions. It'll damage the world-building I think.
So no, Waiting Sorrow does not have a point and any newly invented flaws are just bad writing.
Silllybean: I think it’s a bit reductive to dismiss Malice’s reflection on charr history as “too progressive.” Tyria isn’t a static world-it’s one that’s seen massive upheaval and transformation in the past 250 years. That kind of radical change has real consequences for how societies evolve and how people reckon with their past.
In that time, Tyria has undergone the equivalent of an industrial revolution. It’s seen global cooperation against existential threats (like the Elder Dragons), entire nations reshaped or relocated (Orr, Elona, even the rise of Pact and Dragon's Watch), and core cultural pillars challenged and rewritten. That accelerates societal introspection. When the world changes around you that quickly, values shift with it.
We see this in real life, too. Look at how quickly South Korea transformed culturally and economically in just 40 years. The Black Death reshaped the entire structure of European society in a generation. Even in terms of moral reckoning: the height of the British Empire was only a century ago, yet it's now commonly discussed through a lens of postcolonial critique. The Vietnam War ended less than 50 years ago, and it’s already a byword for unjust war in American discourse.
So when a character like Malice reflects on the charr’s violent past, that’s not “too progressive”-it’s what happens when intelligent people live through eras of intense transformation. Tyria isn’t stuck in a feudal mindset. It’s a post-industrial, post-cataclysmic world full of people forced to re-evaluate what strength, honour, and unity even mean. I actually find Malice's beat at this point in the story incredibly convincing and makes Tyria feel like a real, lived in place with socities that evolve and respond to stimulus.
That said, I do wish it was Efram doing that same reflection.
broomemike1: Sorry, WP... This morning was a bit rough for me, and I left you a cranky comment.
But I'd rather not leave it sitting here reflecting a negative opinion.
Jun 11 2025