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Guild Wars 2 Janthir Wilds Absolution Full Playthrough Part 4 Epilogue

Stephenrus1: I love the Q&As you've been doing in your Janthir Wilds streams, it takes me back to one of my favourite WP eras, the EOD daily videos!

ozirus3344: Oh wow my comment about mounts got disappeared. TLDR mounts are amazing but they do break exploration. However the Skyscale demolishes any chance people will use other mounts to explore. Its best-in-slot and as bad as I feel saying it I wish they never had made it.

XxPoliatorxX: I don't know if it's been addressed already, but the "Mistburn" itself is unanswered as well.

I can guess Mistburn leaks through the portal and almost wiped the Mursaat because the portal is attuned to the Foundry. We can say this because there is Mistburn back then and in the present (since Mabon's barrier broke).

That'd mean that, back when the Mursaat where trying to open the gate, its direction was the Foundry. Where they didn't want to go.

Maybe the story is that the Mursaat where trying to escape through the Mist gate desperately, because they were mad at being exiled, wanted to go "home", and where blinded by that (a faction didn't care about going back since all their lives were in Tyria) and didn't think it'd lead to their demise. Maybe even the portal was, somehow, stopping the Mursaat from opening it to their deaths and when they eventually died it openned? (I know that's huge baseless especulation!)

Aside from that: what even is Mistburn? I think they say or tease it's coming through the Mist Portal. Why does only this portal inflict Mistburn? Why didn't RoF's portal inflict Mistburn? We know it doesn't need to be open, because the Mursaat where Mistburned; then what causes it? Is it because the Foundry was active? Then again, two options: either Mabon's barrier can stop the Mistburn (something his predecessors utterly failed to do); or, simply, Mistburn started to spread independently of the barrier, maybe indicating the Foundry has been lit?

All this teasing about the Foundry being lit or not through the expansion only to not even acknowledge it is lit.

All this mystery around Mistburn and how it's spreading and killing the wildlife, just so it never gets explained or acknowledged.

I really hope we get a patch that introduces some more books or interactions that explain some of this (they did add some books to Godspawn after it launched, before Repentance, so there is hope).

hardy83: Someone's comment you posted talked about an note left by Tatyanna that isn't on the wiki got me looking for it. lol Amazingly I was able to find it with the vague "it's way up high." lol

Basically in the landing area an Asura opens a portel to fight destroy a Bloodstone Tower or whatever. You take the portal and when you load, fly towards the ruined building in the distance. On the left side of the ruins building side, towards the top you'll see two open windows that aren't bloodstone.

In it there's a Discarded Note. Not sure if its lore relevant but it definitely shows the deteriorating mindset of these Mantel people.

As for the Titans also having demons in them, it reminds me of the Voidsent in FFXIV. They can consume other Void, retain their thoughts and memories, but there's a dominant personality. Or maybe that's a stretch. lol

Sometimes ANet mysteries can be so vague and/or missing so much information it's more frustrating than intruiging.

xuzhang9580: Saw a comment in chat said Isgarren must've found the smut book in the JP first and torn off the best part XD it's so funny to me, several days ago I saw someone saying that the seer in the book may actually be some kind of a reference to Isgarren lol The idea is those smut books always have a real character influence on them, and Isgarren the Mask Scourge being a deadly assassin of the seers would be the character inspiration for the book character Viaro the Tragedian, and the arch steward is persumably Celsa whose mate (Yagon) Isgarren killed, so he's passionate enough to tear and ban the book lmao the whole thing is just so hilarious

naryktaryk225: Since you mentioned both the world spire and mistgate here: could it be that mursaat could not open the mistgate because the spire or more to the point why it was so easy to now open it. Since the spire is damaged any random fool could open it now

TobiNano: The one thing that would have saved the expac for me would be changing the ending to have the commander and crew be stuck in the Foundry. We walk through the portal into the Foundry, and it closes, we are trapped inside it. Then the expansion ends there, no more of that "Woohoo the Guardians of Tyria saved the world again with next to no consequences! Power of friendship!"

To exit the story instance, they could put a bed in the Foundry "camp", and the commander sleeps and dream to exit the instance. So story wise, our play sessions after the JW epilogue would be dreams of the trapped commander until the next expac.

I feel like ending the story on a light note yet again is just lazy, and this ending left us with almost nothing to be excited for. We ended LWS4 on a happy note, we ended IBS on a pretty happy note. We ended EOD, and SotO on a happy note. Something risky would have made this story stand out. This expac's ending felt like Antman 3, where it's all fake stakes and the audience is left feeling indifferent about the story.

AwesomeDeBawesome: This is off-topic but I find it interesting that the (alleged?) change of the ending of S1 shows the issue with the 'trope' 'bury your gays'. It feeds an attitude that gay characters cannot die, thereby removing certain story beats from being used at all. Because the trope is so vague, it could be used in any context whenever a non-heterosexual character dies in the presence of heterosexual characters. Assuming it's true that people complained about the trope before S1 ended (I have no proof of this), the people complaining showed that this is the case. They didn't even consume that story, but blamed a certain ending on an overused trope, not knowing the context. Would the ending of S1 where Marjory dies have fit the trope? We don't know, because it never happened.

Obviously this quickly becomes a political topic for some, so it's fine if people don't want to discuss this here, but I think if people criticize any / many stories where non-straight characters die like this, it hinders writers from using those story beats and also limits the normalization of representing different sexualities in stories. This is all on top of the fact that many stories have characters where their sexuality doesn't affect the story at all, or is just one facet of their character. In that case, when they die, it seems a little weird focus on the sexuality. Obviously we can easily find examples of media where the story is blatantly obviously malicious or extremely ignorant to the point where the trope makes sense, but I doubt Kasmeer and Marjory fit that case. They were (and are) both multi-faceted characters with more going on than who they're in love with. If Marjory should die because it makes sense and makes for interesting storytelling in the future, the writers should be able to write that. Same with all the other characters that died, gay or not.

Note: I say alleged because I legit don't remember if there's proof that it's been rewritten.

osiek8: Let me make my hot take.

MMOs work better when they don't have story instanced and on rails :)

sabrina.me31: Although sounding like Snargles distand relative writing it, that's not what it is all about. This book is about the day Isgarren and Mabon partnered up.

Hear me out. During the SOTO story, we see a memory scene between Isgarren and Mabon, about the day they stopped fighting each other if you remember.

Later, i think after we come back to the Tower after our little rendezvous with Cerus, we have our first talk with non-possed Isgarren. There, he tells us this:

Isgarren: I don't care what you call me. "Isgarren" is comfortable. "He" is comfortable.

Isgarren: But I've been called many names, and all of them are as true as this one.

Sadly i don't remember where it was mentioned, but there is something in the back of my mind of 'Isgarren taking the knife/dagger off of Mabons throat'.

So, with that in mind, read the book again. I'm convinced Viaro is Isgarrens former name, and Junon is Mabon before his ascension. And the memory scene we see in SOTO comes right after what happens in the book.

CryHeroCZ: Thanks for clarification! I forgot about portal hub created by lich at end of prophecies. But now thou it makes no sense why would mabon want it to go to the mists if the gate was closed. I have no clue about anything after last patch. But for titan emotions, you got me wrong. By "free on tyria" i meant free to destroy or whatever it wanted to do you know? It could have some remnants of lich orders still in mind or whatever. Didnt really thought about it as it would love to see scenery, go swimming with Mabon on southsun or anything like that.

dredreji: I just realized, being inside the titan is like when they wanted us to explore inside Zhaitan.

Nice to see they brought the idea back.

CainOrdamoth: Hey WP, a few things. Firstly, what does tesserae mean?

emilyrose168: I really wish that Saevus had had any speaking lines or character. Espeically after how characterful Greer and Decima were. I was really disappointed that we never heard anything from the living city himself.

Lucartes98: In regards to the trademark situation, could it be the case that the trademark hasn't been noticed because the new expansion is named something that has already been trademarked a long time ago?

Mixchimmer: It's funny you say this about windows Aero - I was literally just thinking like a few weeks ago, "Man I wish I could make Windows 11 look like Windows 7" - literally just for nostalgias sake - hah.

graven2002: Localization is likely bound by a contract / agreement, so Anet can't just switch to AI translation without consequences.

IgnotusEcho: Logan is the actual winner of Janthir Wilds. He managed to come out on top.

spittinglama91: WP you seem to have missed this during the story because you have incorrectly brought it up or referenced it like 3-4 times now. Mabon unequivocally states that the three white mantle ARE the titans in the mission where he pops out of the portal.

Generalistify: To be honest, i prefeer the old format of expansion, the whole pack were more complete and provide hours of contentr. I think that HoT was the perfect expansion, small thing to discover, meta events and a grand final, even if the main story was a bit wonky

raquetdude: Could you get a bot to pull comments from your YouTube that have least 1 like or have a

yumi456: I'm again just 1 min late. I have a talent for this :D

Jun 22 2025

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