shelled171: tldr: if your class discord sandbagged hard enough in the ptr so you do more damage than the other specs you will be meta

meowdy..: because the israeli government has a guy on call for when i decide on a main for the tier and they automatically double tap it in the following weeks patchnotes

The_vataru_guy: Extremely insightful video. You’ve been on a roll lately, Big T

TheKilosaurs: "dk always meta" meanwhile DPS DK (blood was good) was literally NEVER meta until TWW... it was B-C tier in every single season since Legion

limonadesenpai: The bench into a new Tettles video. Premium day

bestpinoza: I may have missed it if it was said -- but survivability? Arguably under "throughput" but some specs like WW are arguably top blasters and have very good timings for M . Without a doubt have the damage for the highest keys. Check almost every other box.... Except they have the worst defensive and survivability out there so they're automatically out.

Hard to do top damage when everything one shots you. But I think it's good to point out

danielmattingly3418: subbed before watching the video because of the cubs shirt. GO CUBS GO!

bleed5639: fury will always be meta to me :v

Kylora2112: A Cubs shirt? I see you are also a self-loathing person of culture as well

jean-lucasymptotic5083: Can't ignore another key part of it: Why a spec's throughput is higher than others (DPS wise).

My thesis here is: Blizzard have moved almost all encounter design for the two pillars of end game towards similar damage profiles, so they can tune them easier. Priority target cleave.

If your spec can be really good at spread cleave? Not meta. Your throughput will be under tuned because it breaks raid encounter design too easily.

If your spec can absolutely blast on single target? Not meta. Your throughput will be under tuned because it breaks raid encounter design too easily.

If you spec can do both, or any, or all? Under tuned because they don't want 12 Destro Warlocks in the raid again.

At the same time, Blizzard doesn't want to eliminate the class identity of classes like Aff Lock, and make spread cleave impossible. But they certainly don't want 4 Aff locks cheesing a council fight in Mythic Raiding again. So, as such, under tuned.

rayhanadamjee6355: Unto itself I actually don't have a problem with this, because no matter how much you try to balance specs and classes, there will always one that performs better than another. It's unavoidable.

The problem occurs when these specs are always meta forever, without room for other classes and specs to have their time in the sun. If it's clustered around the same 3-4 classes and specs all the time - I mean what's the point of other classes and specs then?

Also if other classes are still effective enough that its still 'possible' for them to push a key like 'meta' is, then the fact that their is a superior composition is irrelevant (I think pretty much most specs can push a 20, even if it's off meta - it's just harder).

So I'm all for accepting that 0.1% is going to probably be impossible for most off-meta groups to get - as long as getting 1% is accessible to off-meta comps. Because even though 1% is sweaty - 0.1% is a different tier of ultra ultra ultra sweaty, and should be reserved for meta comps that are min maxing to the smallest fraction of a decimal (where 'meta' should be allowed to have it's place).

snowpantsguy: Tettles is right !

raechu_01210: First! Havent watched the vid yet but what a banger of a video concept!

oldbonesuk1139: im sooooooooo fekin sick of hearing about Mythic, it one part of the game, and until this season were Blizz made it the only part that got uncapped runs for crests, it was the MOST unpopular, Most toxic part of the game,,,, just run the figures through a google search, and yet the ENTIRE feking game revolves arounds this 1 game mode, balancing, talents , content , there is a reason soooooo many players quit playing

imSnyde: i like that you say specialization instead of spec

RosyKit: I miss hunters knocks all we get is a stun and "good luck everyone else"

meduzai4108: Your voice over threw me off lmao. I thought I was having a stroke!

kaakrepwhatever: I don't do mythic , but I always play Guardian. So I find these amusing.

freeplayer9346: If they added an ability for key owner (as in the player who activated the key) to either roll among untimed keys or straight up pick next dungeon upon a successful resilient key upgrade, 85-90% of metagaming dissapears immediatelly (outside of literal apex world-first keys).

Peonillia: Are our classes the strongest because of our comp or is our comp the strongest because of our classes?

balloonsfx1797: I really want to hear about others’ experiences when it comes to inviting on meta specs to keys. For instance; I have done 20-21 on both MW and Rsham, both of which have been relatively easy because of the group of friends that I play with being able to ~80-90 parse on their specs. Whenever we have to pug a lust spec for the group I feel more comfortable inviting a hunter who is parsing well over an evoker who is all grey.

objec: The saddest thing is that they could easily tune the way that not only but 2 team is viable at a time they just don't care and after 2 month they leave the 90% of the specs in the dust for the rest of the season.

Samwise1019: My spec is always meta for the content I do.

shoresd1: God points like you mentioned OP specs are OP bc of the changes in the beginning of wanted to explain to you, they are OP in. Will continue to be that way until they are redesigned again in the next expansion.

malthus0016: being a rogue is....rough like....period.

Ratatoeskrrr: Your class is not meta because only 5 speccs can be. Which means like 80% of the classes will never be meta, no matter how good blizz ballances. Period

Yeah there are seasons where meta and non meta is closer together but ultimately, meta will always exist and there is nothing blizz can do about it.

Either accept it or keep whining

rs3stuff905: Arent you located in missouri? Very brave of you to wear a cubs shirt next to an open window

Jul 08 2026

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