ClayishFever: crendor talks in front of a suspiciously high quality green screen

Zach_Minnesota: Modern wow: designed for endgame

Old wow: designed for early/mid game

That's the difference. The world felt important because it WAS the game. Exploring the zone, doing all the quests, talking to NPCs, etc... Now none of that matters. You can get to max level in a single afternoon.

Digitalrogues: Another point regarding the friction is that it was about the journey, not the destination.

cajintexas7751: In Classic WoW, questing out in the world or even just farming, and then coming upon a town, you had this real feeling of emerging from the wilderness. Going to a major city was like reporting to civilization. Now, towns are just quest hubs and capital cities are just places to dump your stuff and hit up the auction house before moving on to the next task.

zethkall: WoW team focus too much on one main story line now. WoW Originally made you feel like a new adventurer in a world of mystery and danger. They also had so many gems hidden around the world that made exploring feel worth it, like coming across a town of dancing trolls hidden in the mountains on the edge of a map, or mysterious ruins; just things that make you wonder, why are they there? Now they have big nice looking zones but they somehow feel empty.

Johnathan88Books: he looks like Qui Gon Jinn.

august1870: I commented about this on reddit and got told I was lying lmao but my wife started to play wow because I play it. I figured that classic would be a lot for her and recommended trying retail. She absolutely hated it. She described it as “not a game” and she felt like she was “just following chevrons and exclamation points.” It is so frictionless (as you described), you’re just not placed in the world at all. Conversely, when she played classic wow, she was JOURNALLING AND WRITING NOTES about the quests (adorable, I love her), all because the game doesn’t tell you exactly what to do. Your example of having to buy arrows is a great one. She rolled hunter because she wanted to have a buddy and she, again, was writing down the locations of NPCs that had stuff she needed like arrows and food. She loves it.

I really hate this idea that we’re all adults now and you just cannot be immersed in the world of classic wow anymore unless you have “rose tinted glasses” or nostalgia. You can. Literally nobody I’ve tried to get into wow has liked retail all because they prefer the slow and immersive world of classic wow.

Ofc no shade to people who love retail, no need to yuck someone else’s yum, this has just been my experience.

gwynedd8179: I'm a roleplayer so I spend a lot of time just slowly walking around places, really gives you an appreciation for the enviroment. My guild did a series of events in the Dragon Isles a while ago and it quite literally gave me a new perspective of these zones that I had previously just zoomed past on my dragon.

charlesc4511: I feel classic is more immersive is because before you had to LOOK for quests and READ them to know what to do.

Now we look at icons on a mini map and follow pins.

bluknight99: I've always wanted a version of WoW that's "stripped" down. That is, use modern graphics but create a "classic" like game that starts at a newbie zone and you gradually progress with effort and persistence. Make the story streamlined and ensure it makes sense.

Willias: So Hayao Miyazaki has this term he uses for his movies: 間 or "ma". The word roughly means "a moment" but he uses it to refer to empty space in his films before major sequences of action. "The calm before the storm" in other words.

Modern WoW lacks ma.

Krelivane: I'm so glad more people are waking up to the lack of immersion and friction in modern WoW

zethkall: Man you bringing up not knowing what quest to do for the new zone is so true! There is too much to do and it makes me not want to do any of it because it's not going to matter in the next patch.

Lamsan02: In Legion Remix I was totally immersed, and we're talking about a game mode where you're speedrunning everything. It's just everything was so perfect, the story, the stakes, the challenges. They just need to get back on a good story like that. But I think there's a general crisis in storytelling, like worldwide.

TheLokap360: We got older and social media, constant entertainment and the real world has saturated and dopamine deprived our brains so that sense of wonder isn’t as prevalent. It’s still there, just watch what you consume and do your best to enjoy and appreciate the small things. You can’t recreate that same immersion you had as a kid or teenager but you can still have fun and make your own new experiences. Don’t force it, just play and relax, it’s still awesome.

SwimmingTiger: I think the biggest issue is we all have grown up, and now there is a "need" to play with FOMO content. Which in the end makes all us players optimize the game, thus the game won't ever be immersive to me. I actually don't want any real friction, I just want a reason to play the game at my pace.

jackinator251: I feel like another big part of immersion is how quests make you interact with the zone itself. In classic your quests will send you all over the place indiscriminately, and often times you return to the same area multiple times for different reasons. This makes the world feel like a real place that you need to travel through in order to complete your tasks. In retail quests usually come in packs that focus exclusively on a small subset of a zone, and once you finish them you never return to that part of the zone again. This makes zones in retail feel like a dozen different micro hubs rather than one full region of the world.

Bartoc1988: Going to Outlands and adding flying in the first expansion was the worst idea. Imagine they stayed on Azeroth and didnt add flying, making an addon about actually finishing the vanilla zones and filling up the empty spots on the map. No Flying, just added more flightmasters and quest hubs.

AlanG58: Classic WoW is pure, un-bastardized WoW. The current game is a shadow of its old self.

richardnorton3453: Good points for reflection. My take on what made classic feel immersive:

1.) Leveling mattered; (For some of us, that really was the game.)

2.) The world itself (the zones, music, character stories) had flavor and could be thought of as its own character;

3.) The dev team did a good job of not needing loading screens for most zone transitions. (I imagine that would be difficult, especially back then.)

UnearthlyTrance: Is it weird that I want a single player Wow rpg game.

TrsLr: Could it be the fact we’ve been playing this game for 50 years straight ? Idk tho

PatchouliKnowledge22: Modern Blizzards writing/worldbuilding being awful is what killed my Immersion. I can put up with the dumbed down gameplay but only if I'm invested in the world.

svenssko: - Venturing to the dungeons physically in the world lends extra layers of depth to the world itself. In an effort to remove friction they lobotomized the players' imaginations.

- Maximizing zone usage, flying mounts, and increased render distances turned believably large and "uneventful" environments into small, cramped biomes.

- Classic questing psychologically frames the player as a small piece in a massive world. Main story quests turned the world into rail-car scenery.

SizzleCorndog: I haven't thought about wow in a couple of years, but the intro to the barrens music crawled up my spine and activated my brain like the winter soldier

rykadawnreaver2075: Love being a plauer that leans toward loving immersion and the choices/options that lean immersive over minmaxing and stats, meta, speed, etc :))

TylerR909: Because the WORLD of Warcraft was its own character. And I don't mean "Azeroth" the world soul but the characters living and breathing within the WORLD.

Jun 27 2026

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