Haretic: Streamers are the worst thing to ever happen to gaming.

thaosarkannon14: Turtle WoW somehow can create the almost perfect Classic experience and yet you treat it like it's rocket science or something

chasebIiss: Asking a modern audience, of which a big portion never experienced long term progression and community based design what they want, isn't beneficial to reviving the genre. You can't comment on something you have no experience with. When all that you know is "get from point A to point B as quick as possible to do endgame", you will never understand what made mmo's great in the first place. MMO's aren't for everyone and that's ok. They tried to get everyone to get to like mmo's and in the process, moved further and further away from what made them so good.

Awadiraas: I misss when we had to sap and polymorph in order to clear a group of mobs.

AstralRebel: 2026 people create 2026 games.

2026 players create 2026 experiences in those games.

Reject Modernity. Embrace Tradition.

FridayFables: Turtle WoW did a lot right, and I'm afraid that the modern Blizzard playerbase doesn't want Turtle. I'm afraid they want retail, but with Classic game mechanics. The Blizzard audience wants a version of the game thats competitive, with parses, and gladiator ranks, and M scoreboards or whatever. They like how Classic feels and want a very different version of the game than we do, except they are a very vocal minority.

The reality is a little darker actually. The current Classic playerbase is fragmented, with people that despise everything Blizzard has done to Classic flocking to private servers that objectively take way better care of the players than Blizzard does. And that leaves everyone else to be your hyperoptimized competitive parse logging gold buyers, that don't actually know what they want out of Classic , they just want a curated game for them.

And Blizzard has done EVERYTHING in their power to make that their target audience. So no, its not as a whole that are going to ruin Classic . A lot of have left the Blizzard ecosystem because of how little they cared about us. The reality, is that Classic is going to be catered towards Blizzard's current audience, and I'm sorry, but you ain't in it.

RedRagedRooster: Anything that is in favour of parsing should be ignored. And i say this as someone that was co-leader of one of the top 5 speed runner guilds from classic 2019

CT_Studd: Been saying this since Wrath... You can't ask kids if they want to eat ice cream or vegetables and expect them to pick what's best for them. And good luck trying to go back to veggies after giving them more and more ice cream. You need devs to do what's best despite a spoiled audience.

joefer5360: There's a reason Turtle WoW lasted almost ten years. Friction is good.

RTEvideos: Changes should require more than a simple majority. If 70% or more want something, I trust that it will be in our interest. OSRS done it correct in my view.

Spika94: Increased EXP gain is what’s gonna kill the success, because that by itself is gonna have such a massive and negative ripple effect on every single aspect of the game, even the end game.

vXCozmoz: To use a small scale as an example. You ask 10 people what they want for Classic and you get 7-8 different answers. What we all (or most) can or should agree on is that C is all about finishing the Vanilla game. A continue of it.

The oldschool devs like Kevin Jordan and John Staats said that they had plans for 30 dungeons, we got about 20 because time ran out. So go from there.

Meaning adding more quests, zones, dungeons and raids. Incl some class changes. Give pala tank taunt, better mp5 regen for SP and Boomies, things like that. Nothing too crazy. Not like SoD making it more Retail minus with retail abilities.

Insted we got many Retailers in disguise playing classic or as I also call them, classic tourists who answered these surveys, wanting QoL, pay2win/skip/convenience and ofc streamers influencing it.

IvayloTihomirov: there is defference between classic and retail player base dont confuse the situation even more !

Crankstormz: blizz fan boys spitting on turtle wow, while swiping their credit cards on g2g to buy the gold so they can bring consumables to the raid is some epic shit.

Turtle was not perfect, it was al around super solild classic exp; and blizz can't come even close with all those billions. Once they remove RMT, DEI devs, bots and add some real GMS to the game, then we can talk and compare the two, everything before is just nonsense.

hououinkyouma1488: What's the point of this type of videos? Every day I see 10 or so takes like this. It just goes nowhere

PatrickSchäfer-h3q: "I wish we hadn't called it Warcraft" is all you need to know

CreativistTruth: I feel like i lose IQ every time I watch a Classic video or read comments about it. We have a literal example of a private server, Turtle WoW, that showed exactly what Classic should be and yet people still treat it as an almost impossible idea to execute. Blizzard fans/Retail players are not just not human

Jin_Yolo: Blizzard will ruin it anyway, they just can't help themselves.

BillDaBigChief: The only way to prevent playing with absolute sweats who minmax everything (classic, modern, doesn't matter), is to play on private servers. When you play retail, you're always playing with the same people who have always played retail. NO ONE new is gonna start paying monthly, just handing over infinite money to Blizzard. EVERYONE is going to flock to private servers, even if they have to keep migrating.

ghostpcab: What i hope is that classic keep the classic gameplay it fell more like a RPG. What be fun if classic is just going to be a new timeline for wow and keeping with the classic gameplay be nice to play as some new race

amfa29: Use all Wrath's quality of life improvements, and build from there.

Flaimbot: 8:00 nope, not the only one. octowow attempts to restore turtlewow in its entirety and continue where the original crew left off. whether their vision will be ok, we'll have to wait and see. until then...

urielseptim9860: "You think you do, but you don't" is the equivalent of "I don't think you have, mate."

Velunemoon: Players always wanna win, even if it means the game turns into something else to achieve it. That's why they need proper game designers, who know how to make the path to winning serve the overall vision of the game. But for that they need to have a vision, and unfortunately, i doubt they do, or even can have one while there's the big corporate shadow looming over them the whole time.

aura3393: Very very good video, and i agree a 100% i also think it's Blizzard's job to have a stop break on the communities opinion, and even before you added it to the video the "you think you do but you don't" was on my mind instantly.

I hope dearly that Blizzard are smart enough to know what is good for us in regards to classic

janeweightman9863: I can promise you I will never play optimally.

JaggedJack1: Nah, Blizzard will ruin the game way before the players can even touch it!

Jun 28 2026

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