Kevkoss: There's one massive mechanic that's missing from this list: other tank taunting boss in pug when it's supposed to be taunted.

pB-ri6su: You forgot "show up on time"

JoshHolden-Aka-evani: defile was a nightmare back in 2010 for Aussie players, we raided with 400 ms, you would already have a tick of defile before it even told you who it was on, we had to all just assume we got it and run away until we knew where it was.

ixplain: Bro is out of content

Allinayear: You really found out who your friends were back then by how they reacted when you failed a personal responsibility mechanic.

Testifiable: really surprised mythic queen ansurek web blades, fyrakk seeds, kyveza intermission, etc weren't mentioned. All insane fights with some of the hardest mechanics we've ever seen.

wobbieadam: Defile came back as a mechanic on The Jailer, and it actually wiped RWF guilds a few times

booradley6832: "Safely ride the elevator in Serpentshrine Cavern"

Orthane: Idk if this is a hot take or not but I DESPISE mechanics where if 1 person makes a mistake the raid wipes. I think those mechanics do nothing but breed a toxic raid environment and even worse, the people who are with you that everyone likes but isn't very good essentially has to be told to their face "You aren't good enough to play with us, we need to get someone else" and that feels like shit for both sides. I have had guilds with these people as well, often times they're older people as well, and it always feels horrible to have to ask them to leave so we can find someone else ON HEROIC. The later half of Mythic bosses fine, it's Mythic, but on Heroic? Are you serious? My main memories come from SoD, namely on bosses like Sylvanas and that stupid ring guy. Again, if it were Mythic go for it, but Heroic is essentially normal mode and Mythic is Heroic from back in the day, and there is 0 excuse for 1 single person messing up 1 mechanic that's randomly assigned to them wiping the raid. That isn't fun.

Epyo: I never liked the term "personal responsibility" because to me, it makes it sound like "you only have to worry about this for your own personal sake", which is actually the opposite of what the speaker is trying to say.

As an alternative I wish we called these something like "one person can wipe the raid" mechanics, which is much more obvious, and FEWER syllables anyway!

"Did you like that boss?" "Ehhh not really, there's a lot of personal responsibility..."

"Did you like that boss?" "Ehhh not really, one person can wipe the raid..."

griffinblade: C'thun: "psssh too flashy, i was impossible with simple mechanics"

Uneedskill: You keep saying we didn't have weak auras. We did, it was just called Deadly Boss Mod (DBM). It told you when most of this happened. People are still idiots though.

joshwhite2764: Rags 1 shot mechanic in P4 was far worse than molten seed. His hitbox was gigantic, he

alexrompen805: *cough*

stancil83: About the Lich King fight, it could be an accident when somebody gets hit by the defile the first time, but each subsequent growth of defile that hits another player is not an accident; it's the player's fault that originally triggered the growth.

u3pyg: Hardest boss is when you have 19 online for the progress raid, and the main healer is missng.

Also, tbh Archimonde had 2 entries here... 20 years ago after 1h farm BT, still had to suffer 2h wipes on him because someone did not take or press the fkn tears....

Justsomedude362: Muru, I think would like a word.

alexzanderburckhard2421: How does Uu'nat not make this list? Wasnt it one of the lowest cleared raid bosses on Mythic difficulty and raid groups had to stack locks and priests just to do it almost lol

boniedwa: Mythic was introduced in Siege of Orgrimmar, not in a WoD prepatch.

gruesome3252: Feel like I have seen Hirumaredx do this same video just much better, what’s going on bro.

Amadeus451: Rag broke my guild, mostly because the dps requirements couldn't be met by certain classes and specs without BiS gear and those players getting butt-hurt when I had to repeatedly point out they were underperforming; I was raid lead and did everything I could to help them, but it was unfair to the rest of us that two guys refused to even try anything else.

shieldslamtv307: I’ve always said it but Paragon’s strat with beam mechanic on Archimonde was just awesome

TimmyTakedownTV: i had so much fun raiding in legion and warlords of draenor. the joy of finally beating kil jaeden on heroic :D

Spotnick2: I have another candidate where if you have trouble scoring goals under pressure you'd wipe the raid.Dark Inquisitor Xanesh was it?

blury2558: its not like people where playing blind for stuff like defile or the rag seeds and just vibed it. There where no weak auras, but you had timers, boss mods etc. It was really not that much different to now.

And the darkness part wasnt even the worst part of kj mythic. The missed soak oneshots or misstiming the add were far worse

eydis9554: Mythic Jaina.

It was such a mess of a fight. Whoever decided in phase 1 and 2 to have random spawns of boats, spells and her Icefalls they had to take something. Every pull was basically shorten into: Is RNG good? We can fight. Is RNG bad? Screw it, wipe and lets go again. It was frustrating. It would be such a good fight but RNG drags is soooo down.

Jul 31 2025

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