DIEGhostfish: Bloodstone was definitely intended to be tied to the Old Gods, but then they cut any old god or even non-corrupted titankin or Elemental servant from the Arathi area and had the closest ones in Tirisfal Glades and Zul'Aman. Interestingly according to the RPG books, the BoE Epic monster Enh Shaman and arms warrior late 40s twink axe Kang the Decapitator was said to have been made of Bloodstone by a mad genius weaponsmith.

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Raggmunk81: One interesting detail in the defector assassination and bloodstone retrieval quest in the warden's journal towards the end of it.

"And he did not often speak of his time within the fold of what he called "the Forsaken," which is the name he calls his clan of undead."

It implies that at that point in the timeline, assuming that quests chronologically happen roughly at the level they become available, the Alliance did not know that the Forsaken were a grand faction freed from the scourge. The Forsaken at the same time as this quest takes place commits a serialized genocide in the Hillsbrad Foothills, methodically killing farmers, townsfolk, miners, and so on. I believe that it's not until the hints of a new plague quest in Arathi that the Alliance recognizes the Forsaken as free from the scourge and allies of the Horde.

Whatever attempts at peace with the Alliance that Thrall tries to solidify with the Alliance are constantly undermined by the Forsaken, which were brought into the fold mostly due to the Grimtotem, which works to undermine the Horde as seen in every quest they're involved in and the Alliance as seen in the ruined inn quest chain in Dustwallow.

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BigAChick: Maybe Putress with the Scarlet Crusade is a sign Varimathras and Balnazzar were communicating. Varimathras was secretly planning a betrayal, so it makes sense for Balnazzar to help his buddy out.

Morec0: The Bloodstone story really captured my imagination back in my childhood. Wrote a fanfic where the primary death knight antagonist had one worked into his runeblade, allowing the weapon itself to drink blood.

Jart988: Remember as well that the Scarlet Crusade also has a Dreadlord in its leadership

Eyevou: Back in the alpha (0.5.3) for classic Warlock players would commonly make bloodstone (lesser/minor) instead of Healthstones. It seems that bloodstone, in general, was also going to be in the hands of warlocks and not just the forsaken.

jonashansen2512: So they also spread blood of another old god on the wrathgate? That could have interesting coagulations.. I mean implications

DIEGhostfish: It's also possible that rather than working the Bloodstone into the New Plague, the Apothocaries were gathering it for its demon summoning powers for Varimathras's attempt to call the Legion to Undercity.

DrScotavious: Best wow content creator ever. Bro is laying out the stories so well!

oyoystein: In an expansion filled with awesome quotes (I'm looking at you, "No king rules forever, my son.") the "Did you think we had forgotten? DID YOU THINK WE HAD FORGIVEN?" stands a head above the rest.

Xazamas: I could be mistaken, but there used to be fierce debate on whether "Tyr's Fall" was always intended to be the hidden etymology behind "Tirisfall" or if Blizzard just clumsily latched on a fan theory.

One video lampooned this with a segment explaining that 'Elwynn Forest' got its name because a woman named El defeated someone in a game of Hearthstone, "El won (in a) forest".

M4N1F3570R: As an alliance only player, I've always wondered what krazak needed that bloodstone for... a mining material with just 1 use. What a crazy plot twist that for all these years I was helping the forsaken...

DIEGhostfish: Interestingly the RPG book or maybe this quest itself said that these Old god bloodstone artifacts are actually quite useful for summoning demons as well, definitely from long before they were made absolute antagonists of the Legion rather than merely another competing evil via retcon. (And long before the Voidwalkers, Voidlords etc were tied to the Old Gods.)

moosegoose3159: It seems strange that the Scarlet Crusade in the SoD version would use Putress as a means of understanding the plague when their secret commander is Balnazzar, a demon who has a personal connection to it being one of Mal’ganis’s entourage of plague spreading brethren. Also seems strange attributing plague based necromancy to the old gods, as we’ve seen in numerous zones their version of controlling the undead does not involve the same undead plague as the scourge.

Aoibhinn-mw: It makes sense. Blizz originally intended for outland, azuremyst, and SIlvermoon to ship as a part of classic but couldn't get it done and moved it forward into its own expansion (something they had already considered as well, so nothing was lost.) Which means they originally intended for Wrath to be the first expansion.

You may already know this but Nzoth's section of the black empire was modern day eastern kingdoms when the world was a singular kalimdor continent.

Seeing how Nzoth is the sole high commander of the Twilight forces in Cataclysm following the death of Yoggsaron, it ties in well to Cataclysm as well.

Calvados656: I still have a copy of Belamoores research journal on retail.

brandonkays3005: in the vanilla-tbc era lore, the highborne originally arrived in tirisfal glades but many of them were driven mad from the whispers of something deep underground, so they kept moving north where they founded quel’thalas. of course in legion they put that titan prison facility under that lake which had the dead old god general in the xal’atath quest, but I think they originally had planned for there to be a much more substantial “old god” presence under lordaeron before retconning it. they likely recycled a lot of those original bloodstone story concepts for the lore surrounding yogg and his influence in northrend, then decided to pivot with the lordaeron stuff after realizing it would have been way too similar to what they already explored with saronite.

as far as putress in scarlet enclave goes, obviously varimathras and balnazzar are brothers, and putress was loyal to varimathras. i believe this was just a little extra flavor lore that the SoD team threw into SE to connect that raid into the overarching storyline

abeloviedo7200: The forsaken were ALWAYS caring for their own but the apothecaries are something else...there is a quest in undercity were a female tauren has some deadly sickness so she came to the city looking for help, the "cure" kills her right away, the apothecary dgaf about what happend and says "you wanted a cure and I give it to you" or something like that, probably used her as a test subjet just because, this indicates that the apothecaries will do ANYTHING to achieve their goals even killing allies probably working for Putress aswell

sephrinx4958: There is also Bloodstone Shards found in the barrens all over the place. Dropped mostly by Quillboars and also mined from various ore in the zone.

Bob-B-.: In Azjol Nerub, the old god last boss whispers "they are outside the cycle." This seems to suggest the undead, ironic-being of the old gods.

Zithee: One really cool detail in modern WoW that pretty much solidifies bloodstone is still connected to the Old Gods is in The War Within expansion: The main power source used by Xal'atath to fuel the Dark Heart of Galakrond artifact (as well as her ascension ritual for the nerubians in Azj-Kahet) is the "black blood", a.k.a, the blood of the Old Gods that is seeping towards the surface. And lo and behold, what is the main ingredient in PvP-related jewellery and gems? A "vicious" variant of BLOODSTONE! What a funny coincidence.

Direct exposure to liquid "black blood" also slowly turns you into a semi-existent state known as "the unseeming", which could very well be related to how its crystallised version (bloodstone) can interact with both the living and the dead.

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zerodas3293: I give the Classic Devs credit in putting that SoD quest in on purpose they do know what they are doing most of the time

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