baddiemage923: My friend, blizzard abandoned pvp long before midnight was even a thought.

ozziettv7852: If they stop pvp I would quit wow

shugguls: If it wasn’t for wow pvp i wouldn’t be subbing

TheKb051: I only pvp, haven't run a mythic dungeon or a raid since BFA...volatile degen here checking in!

Fr33mx: I think pvp has been an afterthought for at least a decade now

DMVReach: Volatile degens is pretty accurate yes

kevinjs26: But to be fair, Towellie hates PvP... he doesn't want Blizz to focus on PvP.

CryptoCali: The only reason I play wow is for pvp

corgi42069: I do nothing but pvp, and started a guild to encourage others to embrace it in a no-pressure environment. The sweats ruin it for everyone

TheVirtualRogue: The biggest multiplayer games are pvp focused. Thats all they need to know

tsadioq: Should be more focus on casual pvp to make it more approachable and appealing to new players

jeremyk9870: I only PVP in arenas and I’ve never had as much fun as running 2s with a friend. It’s sooooo much easier to find 1 person to play with and play a PvP game mode that isn’t so chaotic.

Seems like 3v3 LFG is way too intimidating and difficult to play unless I dedicate my life to the game.

If Blizzard made a mount and title for 2v2 I’d literally break down in tears of happiness.

I play multiple classes in SS at 2k-2.3k rating.

Dipsy827: A tale as old as time.

prekx: "You can't add glad to 2s, that'd kill 3s" is a great way to describe WoW PvP, in my opinion. It's as if the devs rarely focus on what the players might actually prefer to play and would rather just keep things the same and hope things don't get worse than they currently are, with a bit of "you think you do, but you don't" added on top.

gustavojordao6518: I only ever play 2s. Cause I only need a friend to play. It’s just easier

cooller8888: 17 min avg Q for pvp in the background just silently confirms this :D

theBoky95: WoW PvP could greatly improve by adopting a Guild Wars–style system: queue for PvP from level 1, play together with max-level players, no gear advantage, no item level impact. PvP based purely on class design, builds, and player skill — not gear or level.

oneone4203: Saying PvP is dead so it's not worth spending resources on it is funny because that's WHY PvP died. The order is wrong then it just loops around on itself if that makes sense

pressm4n: 2s is a lot of fun and easier to play, imo.

Xeriuas88: I honestly play multiple classes to 1800 just for the elite set and then que randoms after for fun, I would personally like a seasonal battle pass per class where the seasonal progress is gained from any rated content. They can even give it a prestige system where you can get different color variations. It be cool to see a special prestige colorway and know that person has spent 100s of hours playing that class

dopx5533: It's kinda crazy that we are getting so much rewards from the trading post, legion remix and other sources. But its super hard to put some more cool rewards into different PvP situations.

OhmalleyValley: I’m sure they aren’t 100% ignoring pvp. I feel like pvp is tunable after they fix everything that’s more baseline for the population like raiding. Pretty sure they have “pvp” only tuning knobs which will be easier to tune after PVE is dialed in. Idk what do I know

H8dez: They make a new PvP Zone, new BG and even Training Grounds...

peterz8186: Also big respect to you Ven, when you hear things like this it's gotta be discouraging, but you continue to push out vid after vid and giving VERY constructive feedback. It just goes to show how much you care, and the remaining 463,000 active players are grateful for your voice.

DavidMurray-y2x: They need more for 2s .

All I play with a friend . Solo hurt 3s , 2s not so much imo. Just need some rewards for 2s

phennrym: It's always been neglected. I can't get over the fact, in fact I'm fuming just thinking about this disrespectful bull.. A NEW EPIC BG?! The one guy at that quarterly meeting who was like "hey guys maybe we should just mention something so that they shit up". It just feels like the pvp dev team is just a bunch of "insta warmode off" "compain on reddit because you got killed in arc raiders while trying to gather flowers" typa people who just got put in the pvp team randomly. Absolutely zero respect for the pvp community of this game that's been driving it since 2004, zero care and no understanding of what the game's issues are. It's an afterthought because the playerbase interested in it is not that big compared to the bot farmers in pve, but it's this way because no new players are getting interested in this neglected 30 min queue team syncing premade farm slop. Nothing is being done.

Udm1836: And this is why I probably wont come back to the game. Kinda depressing.

Dec 26 2025

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