OsamaAlSaeedy: The solution to osrs pvp should never include a financial incentive. if there is, it will be botted (LMS) and it WILL be ruined. Remember when free trade got removed and they added that stupid EP system? You could risk millions and if you died the killer would get like a rune chain. and people STILL pvped actively. So the problem isn’t how do we add money incentive to pvp rather it’s the opposite. How do we prevent players from losing money while pking for fun and learning?

Idk if anyone remembers the most active pk worlds back then? 1 worlds. You literally cannot get smited for your 1. Everyone would bring a 1 and pk in the scuffiest gear imaginable and who cares? You’ll never get smited, and that’s the whole reason it was fun inviting to new players. You could still technically make good money (and xp, way more fun than afk gem crab) by bringing trash gear and just having your 1 carry you in fights.

If we bring back 1 worlds, people will flock to the wilderness. not just pkers but pvmers too, because they have basically zero chance of getting smited. Imagine pvming unskulled with an extra 1… like will you REALLY be that upset if you died and kept your 4 most valuable items? BUT the 1 worlds shouldn’t be a free death either because then 1-item raggers will be everywhere. so instead, if you die skulled in a 1 world, instead of losing your 1, you should lose the alch value of it depending on your current risk. (higher risk = lose low alch value on 1 upon death and vice versa).

Also PLEASE REMOVE rev caves in these worlds and bring back roaming revs. they should honestly hit harder and hit through prayer. Make them actually scary and force people to team up and hunt them in multi like they did back in the day. and the drop table should be an all or nothing. So either you get a tradable corrupt weapon/armor drop (1 in 100k chance idc) or you get literally nothing. That way even if clans camp them, it’s not a consistent money method and it doesn’t become the next gold farm.

Plus disable wilderness teleports in these worlds (including ferox). Force players to walk and explore the wilderness. The issue right now is the only active wildy hotspots are the entrances of wildy bosses because there are so many wildy teleports that the only risk pvmers face is when they arrive at the hotspot and not the journey itself. and that’s backwards. You should risk getting attacked on the way either by pkers or by roaming revs, not just at the boss cave.

mahloola: NAHH wtf thanks a lot for reacting to my video (not sure how you found it) and thanks to everyone for watching

I'm new to this and I think the pacing was boring yes I didn't really propose a concrete solution

lmk if anyone has more feedback for me, I really wanna make more pvp videos

KMartWarrior: the biggest issue honestly is the fact that maybe 5% of fights you find are at your skill level. imagine queueing into league of legends and have a team of challenger and grandmaster ranks against you. thats basically what pvp feels like, because theres no way to reliably fight people your skill level. if they really want to revitalize pvp, they need some kind of ladder or matchmaking system

FreedomEagleROK: dude doesnt even wanna make this video him self sent me dying lmao

sleek29-g9s: There are only 3 guaranteed things in life: death, taxes, and Pkers crying about PvP

lilcvm: pking is dead cause the wildy is covered in bots everywhere making it no fun and wildy slayer is all tick perfect teleport scripts or when they dont have the script their fucking screen flashes bright red to alert them lmao

Proleet138: 1:05 that AI bot in the video yesterday is part of why PKing is dead

Loganberry: Atlatl and voidwaker ruined PvP as well.

Mastercaped: It isn't dead, they just got bored of doing that content and hopped osrs trends for a bit.

OdysseyK: 8:10 there's literally a guy on bounty hunter who runs around and around in a circle with stamina pots if you attack him on target lol

Hlk9368: One of the reasons why it's dead is because there's so many worlds in the game now, you have to hop 100 worlds just to find someone. Also, changing revs from multi pvp to singles pvp ruined the wildy in osrs. Multi revs was peak.

Mastercaped: Yeah... that was a pointless video.

bigdawg7000: Worst video of all time.

But PVP is dead as it should be. Shit sucks.

DivinityIsInYou: What if collection logs were added to PVP so to be a true grandmaster you must Pk. 100, 500, 1000 kills, total value pked, total active time in wilderness/pvp, number of times 1hped in wild.

I know it would be gamed by many but it would bring a lot more traffic into pvp areas

joed6207: great pkers are top tier elite runescape players. pvmers like to argue oh they buy their capes they cant pvm. no if they took 50 hours to learn theyd complete more than the average "good" pvmer thats been pvming for 3 years. pvmers try to pride themselves saying pkers couldnt do it but its the wrong mentality. pkers could definitely do it they just dont want to waste any time on learning something that produces say 5 mill an hour when they could make 50m an hour pking and buy the cape lol

Raventeal: guarantee you that the summer sweepup will have zero pvp talk in it

Osamabinlagging69: i want my 9 mins back scammer o

powellpker: Deep wild pking died when they added 300 worlds just so ironmen could have a bloodveld spot, that paired with the "too many login attempt" timer made it impossible to hop and find players.

The extra worlds also made botting wilderness content viable, when there was 50-80 worlds it wouldn't be profitable for botters because pkers kept them at bay & limited worlds meant they couldn't scale the farm, but with 300 worlds they ran wild.

johnguylw: The reason pking was big back then was just there wasnt much to do.. pking was essentially the end game boss. Now we have so much new content that its made pking an after thought.

ImpatientRS: It's the same issue that it has been. there are 13 pkers hopping across 300 worlds in 1 spot. Less worlds = more active not rocket science.

origrinder: Pking is dead because the skill gap between the average pker and somebody new to pking is so big.

Its the same issue with a lot of other games. League of legends, starcraft, world of warcraft struggle to get new players because these games are fucking hella old, and its hard to compete with people who have played for over a decade.

Same principle with pvp in osrs. Pvm is also more accessible and rewarding to the average person. I dont think anything will save pvp at this point.

One more thing, i think pvp has kind of peaked for most players in terms of skill ceiling. Its tough for players like odablock to improve because theyve already mastered pvp. It becomes the same shit every time, whale hunting and making bank

marshonmellows: pking is lame

talorb633: The problem is everyone wants to be efficient and make the most money instead of enjoying the process and having fun pking. I’ve been mainly a PvP player for years. It was never abt the profit that’s a by product of enjoying smacking kids.

Grriabear: Dude pking in leagues was fun lol. Running around in max not worrying about losing anything

pokerinfobot: singles is too much of a skill gap, need old school rev caves multi back even though it was just a gold farm it provided a very busy place of pvmers farming gold and clans running into eachother in the wildy

TimMachineQS: What killed pvp for me was the helpless feeling that sucks the fun out of pvp. It was really fun to learn and get better and practice in lms, but as soon as you try to actually go pking you just get dumpstered by cheaters or max gear players that have 10 years of experience on you. Bounty hunter isnt much better, its just minmaxed accounts with bought capes who spec and run, it kinda just makes engaging with pking unfun for the majority of players.

RJA: Honestly the collection log and combat achievements killed pvp.

End game content that's rewarding and rewards skill other than PvP.

PvP used to be the highest skill gameplay in the game, now most people would probably say grandmaster/pvm is the highest skill thing you can do in the game.

May 22 2026

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