Alurin93: Can we PLEASE move away from bars filling per seconds in combat and make them interactive PLEASE

Sunshine-tu6cm: The only way to ensure players take 1 of each is to make an MT that holds aggro and hits all his counters do more DPS than the off-tanks, but a MT who doesn't hold aggro or do any counters does less than the off tanks

FaelonZ: I'm also wondering if you can get multiple counters per sheltron since there are 2 different ones you get, it depends on the buff you have up, there's a 4s buff when you immediately press it, then after that 4s it switches to another one for another 4s, that buff decides when ability you get when you take damage. But we only see the one buster and the mob isn't doing autos, so like theoretically we could get multiple usages of them if it procs from autos. Like you use sheltron, take an auto, use a counter, still have the buff take another auto and get another counter etc.

Kaladin07: More main tank/off tank content. Yay.

Blubbii88: The more I see what actual dmg buttons are, the less confident I am that this is fun.

Currently there is a flow in the rotation, somewhat like osu or playing an instrument. But the more I try to think how PLD rotation will be, the more bored I feel.

People say 1-2-3 and 1-1-1 is no different, but even that is. But thats not even what evolved mode is. It's like playing a hard riff on an instrument that goes up and down the ladder and compare it to a bass player hitting the same 4 notes over the whole duration of the song instead of weaving some extras in. It's just less fun.

So far, I am more worried about the future of jobs, at least support jobs with many dps unrelated skills. Cover on the dash is one of the most out of touch changes of them all. A person who would put cover on the dash has never used cover in an intelligent and useful way in his whole life. It's like they've put cover on it, so paladins get the opportunity to dash to teammates, but simply shouldn't in 99% of the cases. They made cover a negative and it was the skill I was hoping they would use as example of job identity. I literally can't trust a person reworking the jobs, when they think cover on dash makes sense. It is a direct contradiction between someone who actually uses cover in this game and someone who just thinks about the idea of cover.

Evolved mode at the moment looks to me like someone tried to clean their room and didn't know where half of the stuff belonged, so they shoved it in random drawers.

nogz01: In a game where the NA servers are located in California instead of Chicago, where ping matters, it's insane that they are putting this super ping reliant mechanic in the game.

RIP east side and those who lives outside of the U.S and play on the NA server.

ItsSVO: Why can’t they just have a “shadow” or a separate version of your character dash from you to the party member and cover them? If they insist on having the thematic side of it that is.

anjoumaaka: With the extra hotbar space we'll have, they should give the tanks an ability that does the opposite of what Rescue does, and have it be a kick where the tank literally kicks a player like 20 yalms away. It'll be like: "Ain't stacking that spread on me you stupid idiot, get your ass back to your protean spot."

jonesdaevilone: It just looks boring now....

Tommy69420_: xunk off tank takes on main tank

Kalletenz: One way they could force the MT/OT combo to be the optimal thing to do could be that Off-Tanks mitigate party damage through their rotation.

But instead of 2x offtanks being able to mitigate, they could make it so only 1 OT mitigation can be up at the same time. And then, assuming it is mandatory for OTs to mitigate properly in order to gain damage, much like running 2x MT cause of the counter-attack, it would be suboptimal to run 2x OT just from a DPS standpoint.

I hope thats what they mean when they said "Its gonna be possible to run 2x OT or 2x MT but its gonna be suboptimal."

maraolima: as a controller player i dont see the need of merging shirk/provoke, gap closer/cover and HS/clemency. the combo merge is a welcome change to hotbar space bur i guess they cleaned too much.

bandgeek4445: For DT savage, my first clears were all with myself (pld) using cover on a healer for lb3. This change might get reverted back to normal if theres enough talking about it.

Yokai_Yuri: I just want a rework for dark knight. With evolved, they can go back to the "complexity" it had back at heavensward. I really don't like the drk being just a spammer of the same one button.

HeraldZeta: for the first time ever, im actually interested in pld. that Answering strike has changed everything i viewed about that job. just one ability.

TheMortalMan: I'm excited

ThatCasulGuy: Charge to cover is fine. It combats the major issue of current cover that utility is limited by preposition or character movement speed to get in range before an attack goes off and hoping your cover target has a braincell to stand still. I would be happy if they gave it a control to move you to within X distance of your target so you are in tether range without necessarily being right next to them if you are outside of tether range. Similarly if you are already in tether range it just works like classic.

The sheltron counters were said by the devs at to be from "blocking certain attacks just right", and they showed the tankbuster presumably intentionally. I can envision it being a tankbuster or casted raidwides only so it isn't just autos, but who knows, maybe they want it to be gambling between more procs by using it on autos or holding for larger attacks. This could perhaps let the calculators out there work out there is window X to use it on a tank buster then again on the following autos then gauge will fill enough to sheltron the next raidwide while there will be window Y where sheltron on autos will not allow for use on a larger damage attack later where it will be preferable. Biggest gripe I have with sheltron currently is there are down times where the gauge fills but there isn't a meaningful attack to use it on and it overcaps or with gear you dont even bother with it because your gear is enough to soak the damage and it just sits there useless unless you intervention a healer or something just for funsies.

Nemhyz: Another Off Tank video before any new info is released?

suboshi9699: They will never be able to balance Savage / Ultimates around both rotation.-

A - The content will either be a complete joke , because they are afraid they wont be able to balance it

B - The moment they tune a "tight" dps or heal check people will completly loos it. Because you can't bring some classes or can't play one mode because the other does more dps / mitigation

I will play reborn mode gunbreaker / pala and if they decide to not design content around it i will quit.

Dunno who thought to put the fucking PVP guy in charge of making PVE Stuff , PVP in FF14 sucks ass

TaigaLuckDragon: "If main tank has counter then what does off tank have? More damage? I hope so"

"I'm not worried about the off tank I'm worried about the main tank"

...Then just make it so main tank does more damage than off tanks when countering properly. Simple. It's been like 5 of this same rant and yet this possibility is constantly ignored. I feel like Xenos is scared of off tanks doing less damage.

Parries always outdamage heavy weapons in most games. Gotta just accept that the short sword is out-dpsing the greataxe.

javridele4083: Just make OT not be able to survive a tank buster and then you have to use a MT.

MCG55SS: LOL Xeno the second you said provoke change is good i was like NAH man that's stupid. Provoke and Shirk being on the same button is gonna end up being Provoke and Macro shirk because no on is gonna click their OT shirk then attack the boss again. How is changing 2 buttons to 1 that is gonna be macro'd back to 2 a good change?

TreasureBaron: Do you eat everytime you stream by accident or do you just like smacking your lips for our benefit?

goldensun441: Goes from 123 to 111 to just hold down 1 we dont want console players to have to push too many buttons

davidlynch9469: So you have to aoe stack to use cover

nise512: the pld cover would be nice if you have its regular or the dash and vice versa with the gapcloser, being fixed to only a dash alone tho is going to kill people, maybe if you can macro it to right click the cover buff off automatically but that feels like a crutch lol

Dudi89: Does anyone know when this Evolved mode will be available? :)

May 10 2026

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