Shopping CartGlorpShakey: The "go play another game" statement from Yoshi P himself is working well
minakatahizuru: Vote with your wallet and playtime you have all the power.
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ForsakenFalz: 100,000 active players might be pushing it lol
IRedpunk: Somehow I received an email saying my house will be demolished, but I have not played the game since 1,5 years now and I already had the house destroyed. Needless to say I don't care one bit, WoW's housing is on the corner next week !
taroyarn: Q2 is going to be a red wedding. Can't wait.
Calios: How cute, some morons who are living in their false realities are in the comments trying to downplay Dawntrail's damage to the game.
aster4jaden: If only they created an Expansion for Final Fantasy XIV fans.
Bebop1811: The SWTOR base game did story telling better than FFXIV. it actually has your character voice acted and you get to decide what you say or how you handle situations
TheInkyBlackDot: Bro, that thumbnail... LMAO!!!
trodune: I wonder if a DC crunch is coming up, shit's hard to do on Primal, I can't imagine how bad crystal/dynamis are
soulward6334: Finished endwalker. Amazing. Never had a game take me on a journey like that. Thought to myself, theres no way they can top this so i waited for reviews for dawntrail.....man could never have imagined theyd drop the ball this bad wow. What happened to the writing? How can you swap out so many ppl who were respondible for the sucess of the las two expansions? They were so scusseful? I dont get modern game studios. Its like theyre willfully doing the opposite of what we want. They think well just buy anything they publish without consequence? So glad i got to experience thebfirst 10 years. Forever thankful. Hope they can turn this around. If it stays woke im stsying away.
anon-u5w-q8l: About Quantum: Don't believe Xenosys' rant about the problem just being the rewards. Nobody was going to do that content regardless, it was dead before arrival, before anyone even knew what the rewards were. It's just yet another savage fight by Ozma, attached to Deep Dungeon which is unpopular content in the first place. And they were trying to say quantum would be what fixes FF14's difficulty problem too and they made it that hard to start with, what a joke. They don't understand the huge gap in difficulty between normal and savage, or are incapable of creating it. Xenosys even said recently that Dawntrail is on track to being his favorite expansion, because this expansion turned it up to 11 with how much hardcore content they decided to add. Meanwhile, there has been almost nothing for non-raiders to do, it's just savage content over and over for a tiny portion of the playerbase at the expense of the wider playerbase. They add all this hardcore content that barely anyone does and wonder why everyone is leaving, especially with the boring job design and insanely long patches. 7.4 looks like it is barely going to have any content either. They've backloaded all the content they promised into 7.5, that's insane to have nothing to do until the final patch - and that patch is going to be the only one in 2026 too, I feel like too many people will have stopped caring by the time it comes out. But yeah, I don't know what your stance is on savage content for the hardcore raiders, but I think it's a huge thing killing the game, they're trying so hard to give so much to raiders like Xenosys and Arthars while everyone else who doesn't want to do insanely hard raids has nothing to do. This game caters to the top 10% and bottom 10% of players only, which at this rate is all they're going to be left with.
I hope these numbers keep dropping, I want them to go back to ARR levels. The lower it goes, the less people can defend this game anymore, and the more obvious it will be to the devs and players alike that huge changes need to come to the game. I still want this game to get better, it's just so frustrating that they let it get to this point by pretty much doing nothing for the last 6 years and decided to coast on Shadowbringer's success instead, among other really questionable decisions like catering to the hardcore and tripling down on the terrible Shadowbringers job design.
0siris-Abraxas: We do dailies then erp for 20 hours
Church-i7q: I use to stay subbed even through these very low player count times cause summoner and blm were fun play, which were my main dps jobs. I use to do ultimate everyday and even help prog with people on savage in party finder, cant do it anymore after they dumbed them down like they are now, I literally cannot enjoy doing the content with them, they’re too simplistic and boring.
So even though the content is good, the jobs make the content insufferable to do. You have to have negative brain cells to actually enjoy summoner and BLM now. So I unsubbed, been this way for 3 months now. Just waiting for 7.4 to drop to catch up on savage.
rightwing707: They should use character data that's one level above the free trial to reflect the real active player count. The trial players at 70 are not contributing to the game's finances.
SVKFrankenstein: Yeeeeeeees, its going according to plan :D When I asked Grok, what players numbers will be before next expansion, while taking into account that it will be released on the start of 2027 and he should take into account LuckyBancho and SteamDB stats (which are most accurate), he said that numbers will be around Heavensward or even ARR XD Great Job Yoshida and Square!
mocabunn: Imagine paying 120$ (10 months/2 patches) a year for 8 hours of fresh content cumulatively.
Darkstarjedi: Yoshi P: Play others games
“Where Winds Meet” enters the chat
Me: Yep and I won’t be back
It’s free by the way
runasth: They can only keep the facade for so long. The foundantion is crumbling, the supporters are leaving, and the future keeps looking bleaker and bleaker. I just... I don't know what else to say at this point. I may have exhausted every option I could mention.
harukoiiwajima: Woke lmao ruined entire story of DT , go woke go broke.
We gotta be honest here Game is not dead or no where near it's death even if half the player base leaves which hasnt happened yet but a good portion has left.
You seem to be getting a bit unhinged lately!? why do you wish death of a game that literally made you lmao we all want it to get better but you out here wishing death of a game because things didnt go the way you wanted it to ? Do what rest of us does Quit or play other games until it gets better (if it doesnt just quit).
Dracounguis: Any publicly traded company really needs to supply their number of subscriptions! How can you want people to buy your stock when you don't supply information about the health of your company!
lolcat5303: And those LB numbers are veeery charitable given how they're derived, i.e. a count of all players meeting its threshold in the survey period, incapable of discounting alts, free login campaigns etc... even if they just logged on once during that period and did enough to meet its criteria. Playerscope - which was able to ferret out alts etc - at various points put it between 3-600k several months ago. I wouldn't be surprised if it's dipped below that 300k since.
khatdubell: imaging taking a pile of shit.
Polishing it into a shiny ball everyone wants.
Then tossing it in the drink and turning into a runny shit.
neonsears: Entire game is a mess. I don't think it will die, but I do hope this makes SE wake up and actually invest in their game or do a course correction.
minakatahizuru: Western developers and these going for modern audience only listen to money so quit and play games where you get what you pay for.
minakatahizuru: 0 way there is no expansion in 2026 lol
PunkFiddler: There are lots of factors which led to this, but for me, it's the stupid changes to the jobs, most specifically, the removal of pet mechanics to SMN and SCH.
Dec 02 2025
