marklar2440: Hmm... sounds like they would love for us to just... check back sometime next year. =)

Tyler-vu8yr: So all that waiting for Warden rework for nothing?

Well, back to Warframe for the rest of the year…

-S-T-R-E-A-K-: Im angry about the Class refresh should be on the top of their list

reikiv3: It's sounds like the same thing that happened during "blackbird" or w/e it was called, is happening now. The money and manpower is flowing from TESO to TES6.

Kextralarge: Guild Wars 3 is coming, Classic is coming, RIOTs MMO is coming, FFXIV is almost completly overhauling itself to be better, BDO is changing in right direction and the list goes on meanwhile its taking ZOS a year to "change" skill animations of a single class. Considering how everything related to Elder Scrolls Universe is already ruined by the "Woke" agenda, there isnt any incentive for me to play ESO anymore.

idancewithsaibot: as a necro, man we aren't getting sh*t until 2032

evermoorzknight3685: It is 100% alright to be a doomer now with all this news at this point. Things are looking very rough.

ericwilson1421: Apparently they didn’t have enough developers to make the Sheogorath storyline a solo instance. There are so many people in this shack that you can’t see what’s happening and it really takes a lot of fun out of it I didn’t see the chicken or the cheese or the Tomeshell or anything. I just clicked a floating arrow. Lame.

lazymadness4924: I'm tired boss...

thatsabignomydude: I was pretty optimistic for a bit, but now I’m wondering if ESO will actually remain a flagship MMO, or will it just become a highly profitable evergreen product that gets “maintained” efficiently?

I mean, a game can “be here to stay” while:

1. receiving fewer large zones

2. having smaller quest teams

3. moving toward systems updates over expansions

4. prioritizing monetization and retention over ambitious content

We’ve already seen this pattern too many times before across many MMOs and other live service games. The language is almost always “positive” because companies rarely announce:

“We are reducing investment and lowering expectations.”

They instead announce:

“We are evolving our approach.”

And then they just leave us, the players, to translate what they’re saying. Been playing since beta and I personally lost a lot of hope today. I hope that GW3 will be the next big thing that’s successful.

samuraichicken2315: You can tell Spopes has become a doomer when he begins his ESO videos with a prayer.

dxk65: I bet the 20 crown crates thing is the first of many "we know this situation isn't ideal" amenities.

burrzie8446: Yup. I was in EmanTheChosen's discord when I heard of this. Highly disappointing. 1 more year of waiting for the reworks. 1 whole year of DKs and WWs.

If I were you, just come back next year. It's just not worth burning yourself out.

Edit: Keep in note they said "Targeted", meaning they don't even have a confirmed date yet and it's subjected to change.

user-zp8sp4hj3d: I would feel a lot better if their flagship favors system didn’t roll out with bugs which ZOS said will not be fixed until September 28 (Update 51) per ZOS, and Werewolf bugs which preventing Insatiable Hunger from adding to the Ultimate on my Warden.

I’m sorry, but I don’t see the quality. Favors and Werewolves were launched when ZOS was still bloated, I hope a skeleton crew is able to see the bugs more clearly than having all those extra people.

skylarsmith1220: ESO is finished. Really unfortunate

hereszjohnny: oh no they had lay offs and ya still expect them to put out content on time be realistic. They still gotta get there stuff together. Thats like asking a streamer to keep putting out content on time when they have passing in the family or pet. Just chill they aint stopping content. Yea it sucks but give it time. Eso fans always saying the game is dying when something pops up yet its been here for years!!!

WittySomething: Like I said during the stream, I'm going to reserve judgement until next year and see what content we get, as well as what rate we get it at. Imo at least it's understandable that some things got delayed to some extent; U51 only being delayed by one week and U52 by only 2-4 weeks (depending on when in January it drops) is actually not bad at all, all things considered.

What I STILL don't get is why Warden, which should have already been on the PTS and should have pretty much been done even before the layoffs, is being delayed And I don't get why they refuse to tell us as to why. They claim to want to communicate and have transparency but then they turn around and turn into clams during a time they really should be more open. Even if all they could give was something like "it's coding issues" or "things wound up being more involved than we originally banked on", it would be better than "we're not going into specifics" and leaving it at that.

I feel whatever's going on must be to do with the reworks as a whole (so not just Warden) or some aspect of the game in general, for a rework that should have already been getting tested to be pushed out so far. I know I kept mentioning "memory limitations" but it's for a good reason. AwA was introduced largely for them to free up memory for future stuff. WWs cant get unique animations because of the memory budget the game essentially has. I wonder if maybe that memory budget is getting strained by the reworks and they have a general idea of how to handle it but it's going to take some time.

SoulSanguine: The forever promise that things are going to get better in the futue..

Catenatus_: "Targeting 2027 for the next refresh" doesn't sound very hopeful. That wording makes it seem like they're not even confident in hitting the 2027 mark

Roykirk: I Warden main, don't alt, and don't subclass, so this class refresh delay is a huge gutpunch for me. Very disappointing.

DarthHarambe-i2m: That "30 year plan" soundbyte makes alot more sense if we're only getting one class refresh per year? Best case scenario we'll get the 2nd class rework in 6 months, meanwhile this *same development team* was apologizing for how disappointing their own Writhing Wall event was 7 months ago. Idk why other players & content creators keep making excuses for ZoS. Regardless of how much we need the classes (and the countless sets) reworked, the past month has proven to me that the one concept that could actually keep this game alive is basically dead now: becoming a cross-platform game

TheLegend-hw3zu: This is GOOD NEWS

The1ntelligent0bserver: The worst part about the warden class refresh being delayed is it's probably gonna be years or never by the time they get to the other classes. Imagine if it's June of 2027 that we get warden what then will we get a new character refresh per year smh.

Edit: 20 crown crates sounds good and all til u think about it. Out of 20 crown crates u might get 3-5 things that are decent if that. It's likely u will just get some bs potions, poisons and xp scrolls. Oh and a couple pets u will probably never use.

timboslice1208: They need to focus 100 percent on class refresh. Nothing else is remotely as important

MMXLIVE15: BDO is looking good right now come try it. Way better chance of future than eso.

leivendil: I wonder if all the haters in the comments really finished all the existing content already? I am surprised how people are starving for something new, when there is so much more to explore or even replay. Class rework delay is sad, as a warden main I can't agree more. But I am sure the rework process is even harder than making a new zone, it's a massive change, so they better make it right. I love mmos and I played tons if them. Unfortunately even with the "dead" ESO, I don't see any mmo compare to it and be as fun and immersive, at least for me. I have 500h in gw2, similar amont in wow, lineage etc. None of them feel the same. So I will stick to eso. People spreading the antihype and mass cancelling is dangerous for the game, which is sad of course. But even if the doomers help Microsoft kill the game, I will play it as a single player game in maintenance mode. And I am sure I won't be alone. So may the haters leave and people who love eso with passion stay.

St4RLoRd89: How can anyone say ESO is unplayable? I have an older computer and pull Wi-Fi. and I never have any issue. i rarely crash. If you want to experience unplayable, go play Ark Ascended LMFAO!!!!! Waiting 6 months for an update is nothing. Have we forgotten we have been waiting for GT6 for well over 10 years now. 6 months is nothing. lol its actually laughable people are losing their mind over it.

Aug 01 2026

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