josh5132: Sub classing is the worst idea they ever had. I put up with all the shit over the years from them, but that killed it for me. 9 characters and 100 days played, and done

JoseLoSm: Who ever came up with subclassing should get fired. Homicide on pvp.

albundy7991: I don't play anymore, I hate them so much

KroshkaChi: there are still a number of battleground achievements that are impossible to complete because they were designed to be completed with 3 team BGs. Shows how little ZOS cares/knows about their own game lol

prisonmykee2595: 2015-2020 was the golden years for both pvp and pve. But for me tbh pvp started to die when they nerfed animation cancel and the damn cast time on instant cast ultimates.

ESO_PRIME: 100% I quit last year when subclassing dropped & new bg’s. I saw the ridiculousness back then. Update 49 is make or break for me.

fitnessfellaz: THEY KILLED OUR GAME. WHY WON'T THEY LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY

ryanhood5984: I have been playing GW2. The subclassing is what got me. I feel it took away what make each class unique

cassiaphire3645: The only thing that matters is hybridization and subclassing. Revert both. Contrary to the initial claims, those two things have narrowed choice. The choice is how to play different characters (slots which have been sold for years). The choice should not have become how to be everything on one character. Very sad. All the other issues are all in the wash.

Tiz_Merk-hw2lw: I love eso, but your right.

StarOfElyon: The last update I truly enjoyed was Elswery. They came so close to getting it right. I loved no-proc set Cyrodiil. That was the last time I spent any real amount of time in Cyro. It’s been a cluster bang ever since.

yorkiblue: i just bought this game lol

tusanity: horrible timing bro... quickly take this video down... clearly you didnt get the news today

victornunez1176: Same thing with null arca so annoying

Atranix42: Unless they fix agressive monetization it's doomed. Just imagine being a new player in ESO and how much things you have to buy, of course nobody is watching this game because entry threshold into the game is way too high

avidnecro: Sigh… “me turning in my I’m quitting too ticket”. I agree. I’m actively looking for new games to stream and stepping away from eso. If I do stream it, it’ll be for events… and look how well the last one turned out.

sk8legendz: Are you seriously telling me that you're not grateful that they gave us eight thousand seals of endeavor so that way we could buy a mount to ride around on during the next broken event?

So ungrateful. Vengeance mode for you

It doesn't cost them a single thing monetarily, or even effort wise for them to give us those seals of endeavors. They basically slapped us in the face and called in an apology using an automated message...insincere..

joshcooper7393: I feel like everyone is overreacting to the news today. I believe when all is said and done gray host and vengeance will exist side by side, I hate vengeance personally. The end of pvp will come though if they decide to make vengeance the only form of pvp, I played in the first two tests a little bit struggled to find fights anywhere on the map. I do not believe this will be popular with any of the pvp purists.

summerbrez: Imo PvE is the same as it was for a longest time now

Everyone (endgame) were playing meta only and still do

First it was necros, then dks, then arcs, now the next best subclasses. Nothing changed

So idm PvE because it's basically the same. Wanna do the best damage? Hop this one setup. Same for supports

Always the same narrow af meta. Since forever now

So I still log for trifecta progs and it's basically the only thing I do on ESO rn

PvP however..

Is screwed beyond belief

BGs ruined, IC dead as usual, Cyro buggy as usual or whatever I don't play it

None of the modes worth playing anyway because there's zero incentive, zero rewards, absolutely no reason to play it

I played BGs before even with no rewards though because it was still kinda fun, now fun is no more

Ball groups in BGs now too, everyone using the same boring ass shit because it's the strongest, same sets, same subclasses

Also I personally liked class diversity and identity in PvP (although it was dead long ago but with subclassing it's deader than dead), like you could play "the worst class" against "the best class" and still win if you have skill. Now.. good luck

After subclassing you either nerf yourself by not playing best subclasses combo or nerf yourself to oblivion by choosing pure classes

Not fun, no incentive to play, unbalanced as hell and boring

Tldr

PvE is pretty much the same

PvP is cooked

Jannah_2k: YEP dead game.

ReaverZaze-r8m: You guys have been saying this since 2018

nafalyno7284: I love the subclass

nikolasismusic4389: No it's not dead you are the resen some people will never try ESO because of videos like this

spiffdaddy: Dev All your charters are going to dye..."But they just started playing"

scotsan3857: Damn, I was actually looking to try the game again, last time I played was over 5 years ago.

Thanks for the warning.

yotito93: Was still working myself to come back but it looks kinda butt now with the subclassing, I refuse to run the one or two only viable sets to play. Hopefully there’s another mmo like this coming soon

Zeorymer300: I’ve played regularly since 2014. I’m not buying the next chapter, season pass or whatever bs they want to repackage it as. I finished up the Solstice story since I paid for it. This year was the most insulting year ever. I’m not even going to talk about the joke that is PvP right now

Nov 28 2025

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