nagasolaire8462: Alive for old minmaxers, dead for anybody else

AllThingsFascinate: Makes me want to quit the game, honestly. I really enjoyed the class flavor.

UR_AL_SHOOK_UP: Lenny is playing nice, GGs brotha I agree with you what you said in video your on point

JacksonX94: Its been a blast, im doing super well on my mag plarblade. Took Spear, assassination, and Resto light and my build hits HARD! Decent tankiness and can pack a punch. I was worried at first but now im enjoying the heck out it!

victornunez1176: Also i think first impression we all just taught wow everyone is gonna use cloak / everyone is going to use streak, But as you mess around you realized i prefer this or that due to this. So most importantly zos just need to make sure the poor skill line do something so they don’t just not get used

xyourdeus4972: Not trying to discredit the video, but I think it's too early to make calls about the state of the game yet.

I think it hasn't been out for 2 weeks yet. People are still being surprised by the subclassing update and will still be as console has yet to receive the update. Things could very well change once people settle in more.

Not trying to say, you're wrong just that we still need to give it time to marinate and see if the update still has the same "staying power" and hype that it does now, because the update is still rather "new".

individual116: My pure DK is still destroying btw

iLxthul: They ain't ready.

davedavidson8892: pleasantly surprised

iLxthul: Got a question though brother. Can you just play one character now and just switch skill lines whenever? I'm still gonna have my other toons for dailies, storage etc.

anannoyedpanda: It’s strong now while people are experimenting, but subclassing isn’t sustainable long term.

We will have to go back to the vengeance model at this point. There really isn’t any way around it.

All respect though, I’m glad people are happy and enjoying it.

moodi3340: Essence thief and rally…..horrible game

the_barbarian6689: I havnt played in years used to be main game. Came from ps4 an went to pc and now I hear there is going to be crossplay with pvp its about time lol. IDK if I ever come back unless I see real progress with the lag.

greese_monkey1: Nice Vid KOG

victornunez1176: Same here i did not like it at first. However now i cant wait for it to drop on console. Its the first a long time for theory crafit with addition since before it was just sets ideas to think about now its sets plus skill line. If just adds a whole new level.

Markytous: Sup King Markytous here. I wasn't prepared for what was to come despite knowing it was happening 10 miles away. I went to Cyro and couldn't do anything to an Streak into Spec Bow combo everywhere and it broke me. It ain't it for me, man. I don't find it creative and as a pure class player there's just no hope. Won't be comin back to this game if it stays like this. Been PVPing since Morrowind and I'm done adjusting. Glad you're enjoying the stricter meta, tho. At least someones enjoying it...

Antonnn1111: What do you recommend a new player like me does before doing pvp? My end goal for this game is to be as good as you if not slightly above average in PvP .

Sweet-CA: Build vid or shit coming out soon?

individual116: “Subclassing /= Darth Vader” - King Of Gamez, 2025

Badchocobo: I have a dream... where i have a pure Summoner build... I have all the pets

kingboomgaming8462: Sounds like I can finally go mid range on all my classes instead of melee

AceCr1tical: facts

RazZiikiel: This games PvP is abysmal.

king8878-f9f: I'm finding the current PvP experience quite challenging and, frankly, not very enjoyable. While I understand that some players might find it fun to dominate less experienced or non-subshitt classing players, for me, it's the opposite. In most Battlegrounds, I feel forced into a playstyle where I'm essentially waiting to overwhelm players who are at a disadvantage, and that's just not fun.

My biggest concern is the lack of diversity in viable playstyles. It seems that to be effective and have any fun in PvP, you're almost exclusively limited to melee brawler setups. If you try to play anything else, it feels like an uphill battle that's simply not rewarding.

This lack of balance and diversity is a major deterrent. If I were a new player encountering this PvP environment, I'd likely uninstall the game due to how unfair it feels.

Additionally, the requirement to experience each skill line twice to unlock "sub-classing" feels unnecessarily cumbersome and poorly designed. And the introduction of overly powerful new "mythics" further exacerbates the balance issues, making the game feel even more skewed.

runkorko: Yep variety. Shalk assasination. Draconic assasination. Storm calling with assasination. Done. Variety ends here

Auldus: Everyone is invincible, cleanses, and can blink away or turn invisible. I have been playing for 9 years and absolutely fckn hate this new system. I see why it fits elder scrolls but PvP balance is borked. The point is for people to run creative builds, but everyone is running the same shi.

Jun 15 2025

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