Awaken-h2k: Yeah honestly eso pvp will be dead in 2026 might aswell enjoy it while we still can

Seahawks12THMAN54: I haven’t played the game in years but best thing that ever happened to Cyrodiil was cross Alliance voice chat, it was a bug but was fun AF!!

TheStonedSensei-h5i: There's 20 AD 47 DC 15 EP PSNA

ESO_is_best_Elder_Scroll: When they try to please everyone, they please no one.

k-3402: Vengeance sucks. Period. Point blank. ZOS' dev team does not understand their audience at all.

megasurge93: It’s more than likely a coding issue. I have seen it quite a lot where the core code was done in a manner that only could allow so many threads, so no matter how much CPU is thrown at it, it still wouldn’t run any better. It could also correlate with database structure, which could make it so it is inefficient to make too many calls to the database. Both would be extremely difficult to fix because both would essentially require a complete rewrite of the code and/or database structure. Financially, it would make more sense to just make a next generation game with all new code, using what they learned from the mistakes of the past.

benjamingarcia3810: They just need to bring back double AP event or a event where daedra are seiging all the castles every 8 hours for a week dropping coffers.

winsome2.o: Finally some transparancy from the dev team. they do not have the manpower or skill set to fix the problems they have created. Proc sets that cover large groups, along with cross group over healing and shielding has pushed a great idea to its limit. Maybe stop building more sets in an effort to eliminate the skill gap. Now adding in subclassing. Folks we are in the flushed toilet of a game, just getting closer to the big plunge. Sad day for me. Thanks for the info Cujo keep puttng it out.

SkyrimBeast: ZOS: This is something that is not possible.

Me: You mean to say it IS something that is possible to fix, but the monetary return on investment isn't worth it.

LilMoonBean: I’m genuinely hoping that the new mid-sized pvp area they’re adding brings players back. It’s really upsetting to see game slowly dying because the devs refuse to listen to the players :( it just doesn’t really make sense anymore at this point.

Murderologist: We’ve accepted it this long we’d rather keep it the way it is than to destroy it

TheCougarKing: Lmao max 900 players?! There are barely 100 total players in pvp nowadays, lol

IROPP4I: The final nail in the coffin of eso

belindawalker6601: Less lag would definitely help

LOL_IMK1NG: Cujo its chalked

d1zzleTX: The thing the PvP community keeps missing is that Vengeance is attracting PvE players and new players who are just never going to jive with Greyhost or even standard BGs. This is why the pop numbers are big.

Furthermore, Vengeance, with its simplification, is probably the only way the now limited dev team could feasibly maintain balance going forward. Harsh truths, but there you go.

fufu_from_eso: I vote cujo kills for lead combat design. I'm frankly shocked how much our opinions align. I had been gaslit into thinking I was alone. I feel like you give us all a voice.... For what it's worth..... thank you very much.

JessRaiden: I been on where winds meet and havent logged into eso lol cujo is my eso news person lol

bzsbzs350: WOW. They finally admitted they suck, and cant fix the lag. This post was a we are giving up, but now that we are honest, we need your help to find out how we can keep trying to get money from you with our broken game.

eckoslight3789: We still have bgs, cujo I’m still waiting on that build with the staff.

wardropper: Frankly, I never want to see Vengeance again, unless I get paid for my time... Suddenly, studying esoteric philosophy seems an attractive prospect once again...

madswipe4419: This is zos at its finest, basically play how we want you to play or don’t play at all mind set, 100% guarantee they will make vengeance the standard for cyrodil then cyro dies and we get blamed even though we have told them straight that it’s a pile of steaming shit, this why we can’t have nice things, because people who don’t even play the game are the ones making decisions.

denizforst: They watered down the game so much, its insane!!

dakarbrown5474: Where wind meets > Eso

Sp33d.i: as someone taking a break from eso atm this is a rough watch T-T, not catching me in Veng

agent-d1e: Like the blurry edges on the graphics, there was a lot of obfuscation in this announcement.

Nov 26 2025

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