Lasersandreddots-q1r: Same trash unkillable groups running 40k health and stacking heals.

BackToNormalcy: They admitted that they can't fix shit. After gaslighting us for a decade....

ESO_PRIME: I don’t trust ZOS with anything they say

extralazy: Even if the next Vengeance test fails like all the others, it won’t matter even if the feedback is overwhelmingly negative. They’ve spent too much time and money on this to not roll it out at this point. They’re giving people a sense of false hope by saying “maybe we’ll keep both,” but they won’t. The new PvP mode will probably just be like Outpost Rush from New World. PvP is done for, and it’s sad. The people who think Vengeance will save PvP are wrong; it will end up just like the 4v4 and 8v8 BGs — just a worse version of what we once had.

ZITOBURRITO: I LOVE VENGEANCE

mateoignacio9670: tbh it looks like the opposite of being abandoned, this is the most attention PVP has had since 2019 when they introduced the hammer but only time will tell if the new management are here to save the day or continue to make poor decisions.

TheEraOfCurruption: Zos should have just said "we hate our playerbase" would have made their post so much quicker to read.

MightyKnight1234: VENGENCE is actually good though. You turbo meta guys get your Grey host, plus we're getting a new Pvp zone. This is actually really good.

Hithrae: PvP is not done. Option 1 is both versions, that's fine

Zemnas1995: Huge supporter of Vengeance combat here, I'm not sorry.

palatineeso3780: At last, cyrodiil will be cleansed. No more cheese, thank god.

itim_na_pusa2838: I'm on PS5. Of course Vengeance performed well, nobody is there. The few there are probably standing around wondering how to make their character actually do anything.

某権兵衛: Unfortunately, it may be time for Sekaar to end your long journey with ESO. Games are fun and interesting, but you don't seem to feel that way about ESO anymore.

BJ9000-k6f: Simplified - they will delete GH because they can’t BALANCE the game after 4-5 years of shit updates that run wild with complicated abilities, systems, and sets no asked for. It’s not about performance, it’s about being a lazy ass lying dev team that has no idea what the f they’re doing in a PvP space.

portkujo: game is dead

GaryMiller-v2d: Idk I have mixed feelings something needs to be done with the cheese in pvp but I’m not sure this is a good way to solve the problem

Tinyfangs-xyz: Grayhost is always busy during US prime time, even on weekdays. Usually have to queue to get in. To remove Grayhost would indeed be the death of Cyrodiil, and could ultimately even lead to the death of ESO itself. There are some great worries, considering it seems they slashed staff by a 1/3. This is Microsoft, and there could be sinister reasons behind all of this. It certainly would be totally illogical to remove Grayhost, just to replace it with a game mode that renders grinding for gear sets and whatever else, pointless. If they'd do that, I'd say Microsoft in truth is trying to kill the game. I'd not put it past them, unfortunately, but we will have to wait and see.

Edit: I wish to give them credit for trying new things, and hopefully it will work out and nothing sinister is happening in the background. I just do not trust Microsoft...

wicked639: Or its pay to win every few months lol

thomasjefferson3449: I would like more videos like this. That expose all the bad things about that game. And I think it's actually healthy to do this. I think it's very important for you to do this so that people know, and maybe if enough people know enough people start saying things about this, maybe the devs may actually be forced to listen. So, yes, I think it's very important.Please make more videos like this and keep making them.There's a lot more people out there like you and myself that have played the game since they won.And have been completely neglected sean and ignore and we're tired of it

ewapiksrandeb3966: ESO is as dead as COD.

Failga-q7n: Being mad is a skill issue just bee happy!

Mitzulunae: You really need to try guild wars 2, that game actually has really well balanced PvP, its all seperated from PvE - World vs World is literally cyrodiil and Zenimax outright stole that from GW2 and clearly they don't know what they're doing with it unlike Guild Wars 2

kainedg6094: Great video, sad game.

rocco5859: There basically telling us what we already know to them it’s dollars and cents and they just not paying they should just revert everything back the way it was or make it just one subclass Line you can use in PvP glad there finally being honest

user-nu9ud3no5d: Maybe change Sack potatoes for actual Server then ppl can „play how they want“ in Cyro without being forced to „Play how ZOS wants“

nikolasismusic4389: I know nobody will listen but I'm going to say this pvp isn't dead I get it some people need views and some people just hate this game cyradell isn't dead it's getting attention now just like battle grounds lol I hope your on red or yellow because it's go time

su3stantial128: Subclassing killed the game.

Lag and desync never fixed ever. Ever.

Rewards are dog shit and always have been. Pve and pvp. This makes for zero sense of wonder in the game.

Monster helms did embody good itemization until they made them 100% drop for every single person, every vet Dungeon run.

Hundreds of gear sets sit in my bank un used.

5 sets are meta

3 skill lines are meta

The most predatory cash shop I have ever seen. Forces you to gamble on everything.

Unfinished game systems.

No care for veteran players.

The new zone is terrible.

ZOS only care about crown crates. Everything in the crown crates (mounts, etc) better then the Hm vet trails rewards.

Game is cooked.

Dec 02 2025

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