Invalidate0.0: PvP’s future is so fked at the moment. We’re going backwards in development. Vengeance is the type of PvP I’d expect a game to first launch with and then work towards the pvp mechanics we have right now

sgtbearDc: I lagged more in vengeance vs gray house campaign idk what zos is doing i thought vengeance wasn't supposed to lag

hektikheck: how the fuck is eso still alive is truly the greatest mystery

Lilsnxw: Vengeance was never a test. They don't want to admit they've been messing up pvp for years and the community was vocal and unheard. Vengeance is their way of going back on subclassing , hybridization and is a "PvP" Update. They put too much time and money into this for it to not be the future.... I hate it here.

XxPLoSiVeZ: Stopped playing cyrodiil because of Vengence. BGs & IC or duels for me

DanaB001: This is how its been on all the servers. Whats funny is if you had looked at the score AD was still in last place, and EP was in first. Its been like then on all the servers. Most AD quit raven and BR because of the blue and red zergs. I have been saying for months pvp is toxic and all the servers need to be faction locked. ESO stream team members hop on one faction to flip the map and then switch to flip it back. I have played all 3 factions in the 10 years I have played, and its never been as bad as it is right now. I used to pvp nightly and now i go maybe once a week. They need to wipe the slate clean and go back to the beginning of how it was 9 years ago and work from there.

Tippi-Toppi: As a pvper, I tried Vengence, I wanted to like it, Ive not played ESO since the first day this latest Vengence dropped.

PhillipStarr-d2n: Y’all got zerged down and aside from the squealing, somehow that’s different than Gayhost? Y’all have never gotten overrun by ballgroups on there? It hurts more on Vengeance why? You play at a higher level becuz you play differently? Everyone else simply taking the easy way out?

Vengeance is not yet the answer but we have it because Grayhost has always been complete garbage. It’s been dying for years now. The only population it has (only a few hundred total) are junkies like us killing each other.

immysw7087: I'm new and low cp with 1 character and 1 faction. I'm enjoying Vengence I get more of a chance and way more action and learning. Once I gear and experience up I hope to play all.modes well. For now its a great venue for me.

xxjuggyxx: Agreed

RJsItchyBanFinger: Why was performance in gh xbox na laggy asf last night? Far worse than b4 the last vengeance test. Makes me wonder if zos is trying to force people into the empty vengeance camp ..

Ghostswiftly1: The majority hyping vengence are players who most likely only play pvp during events. Regular/main pvpers dont want vengence, i dont know any regular/main pvper who wants vengence over cyrodill. Not only that, last night we got cyrodil back and the bars were popping on xbox NA, still more players than vengence. Xb EU is a different story, pvp is too quiet to even bother with hence why loads of us switched to NA so vengence is kind of pointless on xb eu

borrackobama4804: So you dint kniw how to position bd is the devs fault

xnbk-yotiex5247: I like vengeance. I was able to use abilities and potions when I needed. Didn’t have to be concerned about bombers and most of all… didn’t fight against players and groups crutching on proc sets, specially ROA.

Honestly, for the very longest time i was totally against something like vengeance. Pvp for though over the past couple years has gotten so bad with ball groups and players using everything and anything that is busted ( and calling it skill. LOL )

For me, im jumping on the vengeance campaign if it becomes permanent.

Thanks for the video.

jr9042: So you're complaining that you ran into a yellow zerg when you entered the campaign at a time when it was "completely dead" and all yellow? So you went into the campaign when the map was dominated by the yellow team, and are complaining that you were outnumbered by yellow? Just making sure that I understand this content here.

blackjackomfg: Eso been dead let it go

LawJek: I was so happy to see Gray Host back when I logged in.

DR-nh2kh: Point of the video is to cry why youn cant beat a zerg

sk8legendz: They're going to lie about the player response regarding the vengeance campaign Just so that way they can do away with greyhost As a sort of slap in our face since we've always been, the more vocal critics in the community

They're just going to wait until the middle of next year to confirm that so that way they can try and sell the new season pass

Roosters_Advocacy: AD on XBOX NA is the biggest abuser Alliance of Zerging and/or Ball Grouping. AD on average runs 2-3 full 12-man Ball Groups in GH that just follow one another keep to keep. ZOS's answer to eliminating BGs is introducing Zerg groups...

bigshards6578: Yea tell me about it i got chased by myself by about 12 people the other day halfway across the map

Snooski: I’m gonna argue your first point.

1. Getting ganked by Zergs happens in Gray Host as well, it’s no different.

2. PC (NA) I only experienced getting zergd if I was trying something that would normally take a good number of people (siege, keep takes, etc) with like 4-5 peeps. This didn’t happen often though as it’s better to play an “Alliance” game mode with your alliance for those big takes.

The rest of the video was a good video

Aftermath1221: Upset that your 1vX doesnt matter anymore then go play Grey Host,BGs, Imperial City

I really dont think this game mode was meant for the streamer that like to clip farm new people

But then again we have New people afraid to go to Vengence because they cannot use the build they make, what is gonna happen, seems like ZOS has already decided and this "test" is to try to get the community behind it. And BTW we saw a que as soon as they opened Grey Host.

AnimeBoopz2: The appeal to vengeance isn’t it suppose to be perfect performance I had TERRIBLE performance this test on PCNA so stack shit on top of shit performance like bruh

SUPERxGERBIL: I hope they never add it I’m again! I saw you in BG’s a few times (idk why you left one match while I was murdering the other team) lol

Ahziial: It’s crazy to me that blackreach is always dead. Gray host will be a laggy mess with a 50 man q that’ll take an hour to get in and yet black reach will be completely fucking empty. They need to incentivize black reach

Dec 13 2025

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