triilliiant211: I think its a good place holder until each class can get their reworks.

Without the pure class mastery passives as a buffer, only the reworked classes will be able to contend with subclass, which will take up to 2 years for all the classes to be completed.

Class mastery passives were the right call

Spar07: Respectfully I disagree, I think pure classes should be far better than not, otherwise what’s even the point of classes, subbing should be a niche thing

StarOfElyon: It’s the least ZOS could do to fix what subclassing broke. If only the players had warned them before it went live. OH WAIT—

burrzie8446: The Templar class mastery gives more healing and defense which is nice, but what they severely lack in is damage. The damage the plar mastery passives give is just simply not enough.

DexteGilkey: Every player will not hit200k dps. Dps dummy number will not transfer over to live content. Because no group especially a four man group. Nor a trial group can ever provide all the same bluffs over from a dps dummy. With respect. And I do respect you. It is just always done nothing but harm the state of the game whenever someone states things like. No one should be able to hit 200k dps. Or these change or more correct term. Attempts to over change to the game. Will break the game. It would be like a role player saying that housing ruined my gameplay. Just give them a opportunity to try something new. With respect I have heard you say often that you do not play veteran trials. So then why could you not offer those that do the opportunity to play something more interesting for them. The same way others give you respect when you chose to pray at the end of your content. Give other that same grace by not speaking on just because someone wants to play differently then you might. That the game should never offer something that they want. That you may not want

zenoswarm3793: 1 year ago you were balls deep in diablo 4. You're a parasite

tyreseperrin223: Please consider that most people can’t hit 200k on dummy with necro. It requires a very high weave average, good crit rng and a complete understanding the necro timing’s. This doesn’t really challenge your point I still agree with you that class mastery is still over-tuned, but I doubt your average player can parse on that level. And nb has amazing single target but doesn’t have enough cleave for some encounters. So for Score pushing the meta will be pretty narrow, but as for pugs or just progression arcanist is still king when comes to cleave and survivability unfortunately.

EvlEgle: Hope you get to feeling better soon.

MrDemar250: Down with beam meta

samuraichicken2315: Warden... you mean Ice Wizard class passives?

ESO looks like it will be a fun game when it gets out of beta in 2028.

odell1039: Leave the game alone it's fine

RTB14-s3b: Based on the test in the PTS.the DPS for pure classes is as follows: 1.Warden, 2. Sorcerer, 3. Necro, 4. NB, 5. DK, 6. Templar 7. Arc

Because warden and sorc par so well with the shattered fate mythic they are hitting over 220k.

KeyedGaming: I think if they want to keep the base class vs subclass systems in the game this is the only way they can do it. Maybe make good class sets that only work with a full base class skill line selection. Alternatively some "fake class" masteries where you have to run 3 specific lines like an Elementalist with Storm Calling, Ardent Flame and Winter's Embrace would be cool too.

EvlEgle: Sorc was Rediculously OP until they futzed with the passives. Someone had a 224k Sorc Parse using the sorc IA set, the new ring, and the sorc's new passive.

TaigaDX1: Personally I don't want pure classes to be meta to the point where they are shoehorned, because they are too simplistic.

For the same reason, I don't think Oakensoul should ever dunk on 2 bar builds. I dont think players just using the 1-50 leveling skills should - in an environment where there are no post level 50 morphs - have significant advantages over players who put the effort into buildcrafting and leveling up new skill lines.

ESO has arguably the worst class design of any MMO I have played, with almost zero class mechanics or variation in gameplay, and being class locked takes away a massive element of further character progression.

What I'd like more than anything is if these class reworks, instead of just moved skills around, put more effort in and added new morphs and new trees only available after level 50 to add a sense of class related progression, beyond generic champion points - but I dont think it will ever happen sadly.

SnakeTheSnake: Thanks as always fam

iiTzPrimex: What does will do with the DK tank meta?

leivendil: Pure classes are back! My guess is that when everything gets polished and tested, pure classes will be on the exact same level as subclassing (they might already be with the masteries and for sure will be with class updates). So I am happy that we will have a lot of options to choose from. That's a great direction.

P.S. I am extra hyped for werewolf update. It will be op with sorc and warden masteries.

eentiitled: Came back to eso just for everyone to have the same 3 skill lines like bra what happened very excited for class mastery for pure bloods like me

Nebarus: Yeiks, as a Warden main, I look forward to some actually interesting skills later...

DeZnitro_: 200k is perfect

gregorybrazell5133: For the sorcerer ones, does doing damage with a proc from equipment count as a 'damaging attack'? I mean, that sounds really odd to word it that way. The wording I have seen elsewhere is just that when you damage an enemy.

Also, as for the Warden passive for increased weapon / spell damage based on number of status effects on the target (including friends)? Think of healers. Heals are often based on weapon /spell damage. So, if your ally has a bunch of status effects on them, your heals are going to be more powerful. My worry would be that healers might prioritize heals instead of clearing status effects

zacharystalling6839: When is this coming out

SoulSanguine: Doom doom doom lol, ill wait for all classes being done some balancing time to see whats what. 100 years from now lol. Great vid, ty!

AlexanderVincent-w1r: As Warden lover, I will be rolling like a little girl if they make Warden as Ice mage after the class reworked thing.

dalecolbert592: it just feels like they’re always overlooking Templar and they’re only buffing a couple of the classes hence DK, necromancer and nightblade. these classes already hit extremely hard and yet you’re going to give them more weapon and spell damage as well as night blade even more critical. It just doesn’t make sense.

ryuukichi2531: Ult spamming Templars in BGs i love not being able to kill anyone and its gonna get even worst now lmao

May 17 2026

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