TwinStripe: I was so used to 'double-tapping' flail for ages, I was still doing it in banner builds anyway!

Sacrilege81: It's a good thing, hope this class go on oblivion and people turn to use a real weaving instead stay behind a book then shielded and do damage blocked like morons.

decrepitbiscuit: Yeah they nuked my beam build and my "for fun" voidmantle overload build. Basically we revert back to nearly u45 dps but with worse sustain and a 6 target cap on cleave. Love it. Not.

Reaper6472: Thanks for the update! The only concern is sustainability was kinda hard as it was. Now double squid arms, that will make it even harder.

tombaker283: Know that you said DPS could potentially be higher they will take a deep dive and change something else. Remember they don’t want skilled players taking advantage of theory crafting different abilities and builds to attain an edge, they want everyone to be the same. Love your content and creativity!

pravusprime: I have played for some time, not 10 years or the like, but a few years. This is the first time I've ever used a meta build, using the BFG build and I was having a blast. So now I have to do something in a few months and work around it. Which is a shame, because I love this build.

SealFormulaMaster: As someone who never bothered with Arcanist Banner, this changes nothing for me. But I now feel no reason to farm my scripts anymore. I started farming them, I got like 15 scripts towards it, but now I don't want to keep farming. This nerf only devalues the desire to farm scripts for players who didn't have it, and it devalues the investment for players who did. Now I have to wonder, "Do I really farm x item since ZoS has no idea what they're doing?", instead of "x item might be nerfed in the future, but at least right now it's good.". ZoS, just talk with us. Many of us can give you ideas on how to change something without affecting the value. For example, just change the effect to "Increase spell damage by x%, where x equals the amount of Crux used for casting a spell", which would still give it value to each skill line, but prevents it's abuse by Beam Builds.

JaretCampisi: The problem I have with it is why they even created it in the first place. The banner and class mastery script is not easy to get. It can easily take 50 to 100 hours especially if you don’t have a ton of classes or just leveled at arc for the first time. Don’t give us stuff that is super fun and then take it away and completely ruin all our time and effort. Games that don’t value my time quickly get left behind.

Zog-The-Swedish-Honky: So they nuked banner

Phiro00: arcanist class mastery was too good, im glad thats the part that got nerfed.

IROPP4I: Think I’ll ditch the banner altogether, find the sustain is horrible since the update. Will allow an extra slot for Jesus beam from dawns wrath.

Or solo I’d slot cruxweaver armor because that gives 1 crux every 5 seconds when taking damage.

guardianv5846: They changed it again. Right when this dropped Amy put out a community note that when the Banner does not generate a crux (because you already have one) it will generate ultimate.

FernandoPerez-zx2vz: So, there is a time limit to farm trials with good scores right NOW before the nerfs.

TDanJoeT: "Adaptation over time is something that you're going to have to encounter or engage with as MMOs grow."

I think you meant "as this one dies."

MorningProtfolio: No sure if you saw but they are planning on changing this again on week 3 of the pts. specifically they said that if you have a crux the banner will now give you ultimate. We dont know how much but it's something

John-Wolfe: Honestly, i dropped banner with the resource drain change. I was more concerned about the ultimate changes to passives than anything else but they reverted some of those.

sellis68: Yeah that’s a direct hit to my arc toon. So lose merciless resolve, change the script to cavalier from master. Prolly lose assassin skill line too. Or go Templar and add in herald

Velharth: What would be a good class mastery on a beam build ?

Kallipolis7: This is so depressing - I farmed for 1 month just to get the class mastery script and now it’s worthless. Why why why???

Bowmanganie: I have not even had enough time to take advantage of the things they are changing so -shrug-.

Oxy_Turtle: I’m not sure what a replacement for banner bearer would be but I’m sorc main with nb and arcanist subclass and since I didn’t have access to banner bearer I was just using critical surge for sustain but I’m not sure if this is optimal since there are other skills on this build that help with that

mannyo2909: So do we need to replace merciless resolve with something else now?

NightMan1224: Did I just hear him say dps is now slightly higher?

PhantomPylot: And so it begins time to be nerfed into the ground like Necromancers

christophershepherd4309: Banner sustain was terrible. I stopped using it. Yea power loss but still doing over 110k. So no big deal

kaworunagisa4009: ooookay, so everything zos is doing is a-okay and great actually, got it. I subscribed because I like (d) your dungeon mechanics videos and thought I might get something more from your channel. Unsubscribing. You can keep shilling.

Jul 20 2025

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