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Diablo 4 Season 4 Campfire Chat Summary


MightyGreedo: Any time casuals get a win, the pro players throw a fit. This is going to be an excellent season for non-nerds, even without a noticeable theme.
basta_9136: season for dads who work 8 hours a day and then take care of the child and have an hour to play in the evening
heronwhisky: This will be a great season for those who dont eat up content like a starving bear.
BellaJiyar_XOXO: It's becoming D3. Whatever, not the direction I wanted for the game but it'll be an improvement to the endgame loop compared to launch, so it's a net positive
robe4314: I don’t think it’s possible to make this game cater to both casuals and blasters unless you make a different seasonal mode for the blasters that’s slower to level and far more difficult. Personally, I, like 90% of the D4 base, am a casual player and all of this sounds great so far to me.
Betotube81: Theres no way Blizzard can keep the "hardcore" players happy. They did all this improvements and changes, and in ONE day, I said ONE day, hardcore players will do EVERYTHING that is possible in this game and say "what do I do now? Where is my endgame?". I think Blizzard is going the right path, pleasing the casual players, the majority on this game. Let there be fun and achievement for all.
And thanks for you PTR feedback, sure it had a great contribution.
Rick-tg4oy: This is probably going to sound like blasphemy but im okay with no season mechanics. I've been waiting to play Diablo 4 and this season with it's major mechanics changes seems like a great place to finally start playing. Me and a million other people are going to be learning the core mechanics, so not having a season system on top of that is probably the right call.

Back in the day i could dump hundreds of hours into a game like this, but not anymore. I'm glad its becoming more casual friendly, but i totally understand the concern that the blasters have, because if there's no grind or end-game goal, they have nothing left to do... except play POE i guess....
Mayhemzz: I like the changes, I might actually hit 100 this season before I get bored.
RigorousBarley: I understand your gripe with the Masterwork fail chance, but I have a feeling that their vision behind this change was simple - people are going to get to level 12, not crit on what they want, then reset and start over.

By removing the fail chance, they have certainly appealed to casuals, but they also are encouraging you to try masterworking over and over again so you get the perfect item.

They probably looked at it and said, "If people fail on this system, the incentive to reset goes down, and there is a higher propensity for them to quit outright rather than grind again."

Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but that was my silver lining.
TBX12: You can sprint in town with the mount, that might be the best thing from this campfire
ach31337: I do like some of the changes, but it's undeniable that D4 is becoming more like D3 every patch (and I actually like D3). They actually just put Haedrig's Gift into the game.
13Nagash13: I guess in my old age I'm a casual. I can only play 2-3 hours 3 times a week. So far I have only played 1 character to lvl 100(bloodmist necro in season 2). Season 3 druid I got bored waiting for a tempest roar. Making the only boss to target farm such an important item to make a build work be a lvl 100 boss is beyond stupid. Season 1 I got sick of playing twisting blades rogue, it was triggering my carpal tunnel, so I stopped around level 74. Release was very fun for its smaller time window, I player WW barb to lvl 83.
volodymyru2760: I’m excited to finally hit 100 lol I love the changes! Can’t wait to play!!
mirage1857: My biggest complaint about Hell Tide has always been if you are going to force me to do it. Then make it fun. I have no problem doing specific content for a reason but I want to have fun doing it. I haven't tried the new Hell Tide yet but it sounds like it might be fun now.
scottbyers9258: The fail chance on master working was going to be a complete no go for me. It's the reason I gave up on Lost Arc and there's 0 chance I'm ever doing that ever again in any game.
Scormio99: I think the devs may have actually played the game now.
MrEhaw: They probably saw so many people quit before even getting close to level 100 so I'm assuming that's what a lot of these changes are for.
MikkiZHskDK: The reason raxx is annoyed about no season is cuz he played the ptr so he allready played the season and its content, nothing new foe him
saynotololi: That armor cap reduction is one of the best additions of the patch IMO.
MichaelKing-qe6uq: Sorry Raxx, but while I agree on your overall point of easier, I have to push back against this notion that leveling faster equals game easier. Leveling was never hard, because boring long grinds are not a measure of a games difficulty. Leveling was always easy, it was just dull (because it took long) and pointless (since there was nothing to do afterwards).

On the armor, I think it'll make it easier to scale monster damage at higher monster levels than 100 for them because they have a much smaller range of defensiveness on players. I think that was the point they were trying to make with that.
CliffyBFlexxin: They are making the game better for the majority of people and not the 1% who live in the game.
JoeCroninSHOW: This campfire made me confused and hate myself. I THINK im done with diablo life is also terrible. I think illl play in traffic
davidcavissi3198: Well done, thanks for your efforts Raxx.
3choblast3r4: Honestly I wish it released already. I get that you're disappointed with it being easier. But honestly I feel like the difficulty shouldn't come from me spending 20 hours grinding for a piece of gear or or 150 hours to get my character to max level, because esp the 70/100 leveling is atrociously slow. I want the enemies to be somewhat challenging but fair. .but in the end the whole point is to make builds that wipe screens. Obviously it shouldn't just take 3 hours to max level etc. But the reality is that there just isn't much to look forward too after lv60 or so. Not sure how much the game has changed by now. But I've not managed to get any character to 100 because it just took too long and was too stale and boring after a while of doing the same sh over and over for absolutely zero reward. Looking through endless amounts of yellow gear etc.


As a more casual Diablo player honestly all the changes have me really excited. Kinda want to jump in now
phenomagator: Hell yeah can't wait to play Diablo 4 now that early access is over!
BabyDahl28: Do D4 is now a reskinned D3. Every season it gets closer and closer to D3 lol. At the rate they increase the leveling of 1-100, may as well just remove levels in general. Have set quests/objectives to get from world tier to world tier.

May 07 2024

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