skywalkersbutido6375: I ping the stone sword keys just to let the others know that i have the relic but i never force it,i really just want to go wherever the team wants to go.

Nice little video man,people need to hear this.

EldenRingEnjoyer42: W takes, summed up all my gripes perfectly. Good on you

jackdaw4986: Since the dlc has come out I've been playing a lot of Scholar (using a support blood blade hybrid build, its so fun) and haven't bothered with evergaol relic for a good while and its been some of my best runs. Sure we still hit the evergaol because theyre totally worth doing but it also adds more variety to a run when you go to all the different pois you can in a run. Idk how best to explain it but moving away from evergaols has breathed new life into the game beyond the dlc itself and I've had a lot of fun on Nightreign again. My friend and I finally beat the Dreglord last night and he definitely rivals my goat Fulghor as the best boss in the game.

rily2885: people are saying it is boring now, but it always has been boring imo, now with the new dlc stuff is just way more evident how it limits your options and makes every run feel the same

EinTheEin: The youtubers and reddit didn't help with the evergaol meta either

CENTRINOaki: My only problem with the gaol/invader meta was when people pinned either of the straight outta the gate. By this point I'm fine opening a gaol at lvl 3, but I need to do another poi first. Like you said, aquiring a better weapon than the grey starter weapon is so much more important than getting that 5% dmg boost.

MamaFaff: I liked evergaols cause i was able to use any weapon or spell and get a damage buff from it. Now i just have to kinda deal with doing 40% less damage as Recluse or if i wanna dual wield which kinda sucks but its fine.

I'm just excited for all the L2 spam meta haters to start commenting and tweeting. We're already getting the same hate comments for Undertaker players as we do for Ironeye players lol.

People will always hate the popular shit.

Great video!

drv4859: I play on the ps5. The evergaol meta has been dead for months. Im glad its not the meta anymore. I used it for awhile but it gets boring. Evergaols have their use and shouldnt be avoided. But the meta should be dead.

vincentarogya: Guardian with right relic setup is an asset to the team!

dragonslayerfox: Always enjoyable to watch.

TheAngryPothead: Going from the tippy-top of depth 5 to the DLC it was such a breath of fresh air to not practically require night invader/evergaol for every build I used, often sacrificing preferred relic effects for the sake of the improved DPS until I got the right relic through RNG. Forsaken Hollows really has done a lot to fix this games samey problem. Common Fromsoft W and of course, common Brophades W with the video.

boneman-calciumenjoyer8290: I never hated the evergoal matter, but I am mostly playing solo, so I didn't have to suffer under other players gravitating to prison brutality.

I've also made bad experiences with the balancer relics, the fiends using them keep stealing all my blood boil aromatic!

HaloAssassin: Double balancers relic is honestly absurdly broken but you can definitely tell that 90% of the players who use it don't even use it properly and probably just copy what youtubers have been saying. Seen people just use the 10% melee increase but don't build around the 40% ash of war dmg boost, which is the main reason why its absurd.

Im sure in maybe a couple weeks, its going to be annoying for casters who need starlight shards struggle more to find some with everyone uses ashes of war all the time now.

Gohnthre: I get that double balancers is OP and is probably the new meta, but personally, feel like it’s gonna bring out all the L2 spammers from ER and it’s just boring as hell, again imo. Did 3 runs with it and it was boring deleting every boss. Yeah evergaols can get boring and repetitive as well. I actually made a Sun Catcher Build so the only thing I’ll rely on is whatever weapon, Executor’s skills, and relics. Have commented my builds on your channel before so here we go:

Slot 1:

- Executor: roaring heals 15% of max hp

- 8 hp on block

- defeating enemies charges ult (5%/kill)

Slot 2:

- 1% ult charge on block

- Executor: 100 hp every time cursed sword glows

- improved guard counter based on how much hp (would prefer just regular improved guard counter but it’s good enough)

Slot 3:

- Undertaker whatever skill

- Successive attacks boost attack power (up to 35%, so like 5 evergaols)

-Ult gauge 3

JesterguyOG: There's a lot more variety for how you can get your attack power up now with the DLC released. '3 [weapon type] attack up' got buffed to give 20% making it a reliable choice to take if it matches your class weapon (or chosen dormant power discovery relic) and night invader power up is more reliable in deep of night trios when playing at the lower depths. The glass necklace is another solid choice if you can land melee attacks fast enough. If you're looking to spam a specific type of attack then running the balancer relics or stacking 'initial standard attack' effects offer a higher ceiling than gaol power. There are heaps of effects that you could be rolling with now that it makes gaol power the 3rd choice I'd consider for my meta builds and not an immediate shoe-in. I'm still gonna run it tho, I can force it in.

viggen88: Yeah I swapped out the standard evergaol relic for the signboard ult relic on my wylder. Sure it's slightly worse vs nightlords, but it lets me reliably ult for every single boss during the run, making it much easier to snowball and find more good weapons and passives.

Doing fewer evergaols and more POIs that drop weapons also dramatically increases the chance that I get a busted fist weapon with a "x on charge attack" bonus, since I'm running a "discover fists" deep relic. Getting something like star fists or clinging bone with magic or black flame on charge attacks can legitimatly win a run on its own, it's that strong.

I never really had a problem with the evergaol meta, but it's nice not feeling forced to run a specific relic

itsame7491: Ash of war meta is here

GlacierRain: I still prefer evergaol and invader relics with casters and Bow Ironeye if they have good other damage perks or important class perk. The new skill meta is going to be good but I can't say for certain ir will remain the same until the next balance patch hits live servers. In any case build diversity is a cause for celebration!

michaelhvadragerdetjer: Agreed. Happy to see that almost forced playstyle shaken up. Sure he made a video like this but not with this amazing accent

ejuss4216: never interested in Evergaol because it didnt drop weapon loot

FlyBird: The only thing that bothers me are the players who aren't even good

kirailgun3800: Love the video and the topics you talked about, I never liked evergaol meta and I too had some sad interactions with randoms.

However, I still I don't have faith in Guardian while in Deep of Night, at least in depth 4/5; sure I can survive more but day2 bosses just won't die and eventually I will die too because the fight goes for too long and I will make mistakes.

Probably skill issue, maybe it depends on team comp too, like maybe Duchess Ironeye make up for it more than enough (I main Wylder in DoN, I think he's godlike overall but maybe needs more effort and rng to get good dps compared to Ironeye broken mark and Duchess caster and so he may be not the best Guardian partner , Idk).

Still love the bird, don't get me wrong, I always spent good words on him, it's just that depth4 is merciless; feel free to prove me wrong, I would love to hear more opinions from experienced players

mother_foxxer: i always love finding a guardian on my team. So many people are stone set in the idea of "guardian is bad" that when someone picks him, it's obvious they know what they're doing. i don't think i've ever lost a run with a guardian main.

rue_pardox: Good! I was already done wt following people around to almost every evergaol just for them to go down the first 3mins of the final fight.

AnimusDF: Im kinda happy about this cuz it means I can finally flex back my double atk up raider without fearing of quitters.

Dec 22 2025

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